Thursday, Feb 24, 2022 • 20min

The Russian Invasion Begins

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After months of escalating tensions, President Vladimir V. Putin took to state television on Thursday to declare the start of a “special military operation” in Ukraine. In the prelude to the invasion and as Russian troops launched their attacks, we spoke to our colleagues on the ground as they hunkered down to cover the fighting. Guest: Sabrina Tavernise, a national correspondent for The New York Times; Anton Troianovski, the Moscow bureau chief for The Times and Michael Schwirtz, an investigative reporter for The Times.
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Sabrina Tavernise
Alex
Michael Barbaro
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Sabrina Tavernise
00:32
This is
Sabrina Tavernise
. I'm in
Kyiv
Ukraine
and it's about 11:20 at night. About an hour ago we got information from some colleagues that there will likely be an attack tonight in
Kyiv
and in a number of other cities in
Ukraine
. We're gathering all of our stuff together. Looking at an empty bag that I'm about to put a bunch of stuff in, a bunch of bottles of water, a little contraption that powers a computer off of a car battery, headlamp, bunch of extra power supplies and-
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01:08
And the plan is to go into the bathrooms of this hotel if there is a bombing. They are the furthest internal and away from the windows in the hotel and their big deep closets in front of them that are also protective. Looking out the window, this beautiful city just started to rain, kind of misty. Really hard to imagine that there could be major damage in the city of millions of people.
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01:51
I'm feeling nervous and my adrenaline starts going, which means the way I focus and remember what I'm seeing and witness, is to write down notes in my notebook with time stamps. So here's the first one: it's 11:28 in
Kyiv
And I'm putting all my gear into an empty bag
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Michael Barbaro
02:30
From
New York Times
. I'm
Michael Barbaro
. This is
The Daily
.
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02:35
The
Russian
assault on
Ukraine
has begun. Today, my colleagues in
Kyiv
,
Slovyansk
and
Moscow
documented the hours leading up to the military operation and the attack itself. It's Thursday, February 24th.
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Anton Troianovski
03:10
This is
Anton Troianovski,
Moscow
bureau chief of
the New York Times
. It's 3.20 a. m
Moscow
time on Thursday, February 24th. We're all wondering could this be it, could this be the night? About 3.5 hours ago, the
Kremlin
put out a statement saying that the
Russian
backed separatists in
Eastern Ukraine
had asked the
Kremlin
for military help, but this feels like that type of moment that we've been waiting for, a pretext for an invasion. And yeah, so it's such an unsettling feeling. Walking through my neighbourhood in central
Moscow
tonight, it looked totally normal. Everyone was just going about their business, restaurants are full. And to think we could be on the verge of a horrific war is still, I think not, not something that people can imagine. So for now I'm staying up, all my colleagues in
Ukraine
are staying up, and we just have to wait.
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Sabrina Tavernise
04:39
It's 1:51 a. m. in
Kyiv
Ukraine
. This country's president just gave a live address to his own nation and to the nation of
Russia
.
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04:56
In the beginning, he says that he called
President Vladimir Putin
,
the President of The
Russian
Federation
. And he said, quote, "The result was silence." And then he said, "As a result, I want to address all of the citizens of
Russia
. I am speaking to you, not as a president, I speak to you as a citizen of
Ukraine
. We are separated by more than 2000 km of mutual borders along which 200,000 of your soldiers and 1000 armoured vehicles are standing. Your leadership has approved their step forward into the territory of another country. This step, this step could be the beginning of a big war on the European continent."
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05:42
It was really striking speech in which he essentially appealed to
Russians,
to their sense of conscience, and told them that what they were getting on their televisions was completely different version of the country he knew as
Ukraine
. He said, "You were told we are nazis, but how can people support nazis that gave more than eight million lives for the victory over
Nazism
?"
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06:09
"You were told we hate
Russian
culture. How can one hate a culture? Any culture? Neighbours always enrich each other culturally. However, that does not make them a single hole. It doesn't dissolve us into you. We are different but that's not a reason to be enemies."
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06:30
"Note, I'm speaking to you now in the
Russian
language, but no one in
Russia
understands what I'm talking about."
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06:45
"Many of you have been in
Ukraine
. Many of you have relatives in
Ukraine
. Some studied in
Ukrainian
universities. You know
Ukraine
. Listen to yourselves. Listen to the voice of reason. The people of
Ukraine
want peace. The authorities in
Ukraine
want peace. They want it and they're doing everything they can for it."
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07:11
"We don't need war. But if we are attacked, if someone attempts to take away our land, our freedom, our lives, the lives of our children, we will defend ourselves. We won't attack but defend ourselves. By attacking you'll see our faces, not our backs, our faces."
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07:37
"I know this speech of mine won't be shown on Russian TV, but the people of Russia need to see it. They need to know the truth. The truth is that this must be stopped before it is too late. And if the leadership of
Russia
does not want to sit down at a table for peace with us, then maybe it will sit down at a table with you. Do
Russians
want war? I would very much like the answer to this question, but the answer depends only on you, the citizens of the
Russian
federation."
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Anton Troianovski
08:24
So, an hour or two after the
Kremlin
made that announcement about the separatists, another remarkable thing happened, which is that
President Zelenskyy
of
Ukraine
released a speech, a video address in the
Russian
language, to
Russians
. And it was really something to watch you know. Really felt like a last ditch appeal for peace,
Zelenskyy
telling
Russians
that they're the only ones who can stop this horrific bout of violence from breaking out that
Zelenskyy
said could kill tens of thousands of people. But of course, the fact is they can't really influence it. They can't really influence anything in this country. It's a country run by
President Putin
.
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Sabrina Tavernise
09:28
It's 3:28 a. m. The hotel's quiet. I gonna open the window. The rain stopped. The lights in the city are still on. I'm gonna get some sleep.
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Michael Barbaro
09:59
We'll be right back.
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12:02
It's 6:20 a. m in
Moscow
. Just a few minutes ago,
Putin
went on national television in the middle of the night to essentially all but declare war against
Ukraine
. He said he had ordered a special military operation to, quote, "Demilitarize and denazify the country." He said he wanted to bring
Ukrainian
officials, who the
Russians
call
Neo-nazis
to justice. It's something obviously I'm still processing. He called on
Ukrainian
soldiers to lay down their arms, and he threatened that any other countries who tried to interfere would face consequences, quote-unquote, "Unlike they've never seen before in their history."
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Sabrina Tavernise
13:06
It's 5:09 am. I just heard an alert on my phone and it sounds like it started. There's a strange green light directly out of my window, I can see it on this horizon. I can't hear anything here in
Kyiv
. I'm seeing my colleagues send little recordings.
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Michael Schwirtz
13:34
This is Michael Schwirtz.
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Sabrina Tavernise
13:35
Saying it's begun.
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Michael Schwirtz
13:36
I'm a reporter with the
New York Times
reporting from
Slaviansk
. I was just woken up by two very large booms. It seems like the neighbouring city of
Kramatorsk
is under some kind of fire. Still waiting to confirm this.
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Sabrina Tavernise
13:50
It looks like explosions.
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Michael Schwirtz
13:54
Rocket or artillery attacks right now in
Kyiv
, the outskirts of
Kyiv
and-
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Sabrina Tavernise
14:01
Kharkiv.
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Michael Schwirtz
14:01
Kharkiv, which is a large city a little ways to the north of me.
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Sabrina Tavernise
14:05
I'm seeing other reports, several major cities.
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Michael Schwirtz
14:10
What's happening, but there was definitely some kind of artillery or rocket attack on the city of
Kramatorsk
this morning, about 10 or 15 minutes from where I am right now. There were reporters from the BBC, in the city, who confirmed that there was some kind of attack. There are other reports of...
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Sabrina Tavernise
14:28
Oh my God, this is actually happening.
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14:48
There was a very loud explosion just now. 5:37 a. m. The same spot over the horizon, it's glowing red.
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15:06
I'm watching reports from other cities. Here's one from
Mariupol'
by a journalist.
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15:15
Very loud explosions over the city of Mariupol'. It's a city on the southern coast really close to
Russia
. There's just no way that
Ukraine
can fight this off.
Russia's
military is overwhelmingly stronger. It's just like they're coming in and attacking and I'm just not sure how long
Ukraine
will be able to hold this off if, at all.
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16:10
It's 7:07 a. m. and sirens are going off around
Kyiv
. What sounds like air raid sirens.
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16:23
There's some smoke coming from the horizon. There are reports of huge traffic snarls leaving the city going to
Zhytomyr
headed west towards Poland. Looks like buses are still running. There are growing signs that people are trying to leave the city.
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17:10
Sabrina, what's your name.
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Alex
17:11
Alex.
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Sabrina Tavernise
17:12
Alex? Nice to meet you, Alex. Where are you going today?
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Alex
17:15
Home.
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Sabrina Tavernise
17:16
Where's home?
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Alex
17:18
In the region?
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Sabrina Tavernise
17:19
Where is that in
Ukraine
?
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Alex
17:21
It's, western part of
Ukraine
.
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Sabrina Tavernise
17:26
And you're waiting for a bus here?
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Alex
17:27
Yeah.
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Sabrina Tavernise
17:28
Alex is sitting on a black bag and, very cloudy day.
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17:33
Jet going up ahead. It's really loud.
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17:47
How are you feeling this morning, Alex
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Alex
17:48
Horrible.
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Sabrina Tavernise
17:49
Tell me about that
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Alex
17:52
Our people, our military's now dying in
Luhansk
and
Donetsk
region and that's horrible.
Belarus
, same thing. The tanks from
Belarus
started attack us so I don't know. I don't know what to do.
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Sabrina Tavernise
18:20
How old are you Alex?
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Alex
18:22
18.
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Sabrina Tavernise
18:24
Will you come back to
Kyiv
? Do you think to help or-
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Alex
18:30
If it will be
Russian
, no.
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Sabrina Tavernise
18:33
If it would be
Russian
meaning, if it will- if
Kyiv
will be
Russian
, you won't come back. Do you think that
Kyiv
will be
Russian
?
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Alex
18:42
Maybe by the evening. I think the half of
Ukraine
will be
Russian
.
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Sabrina Tavernise
18:53
How are you feeling right now?
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Alex
18:55
I don't know what to say, no words. Thank you.
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Sabrina Tavernise
19:02
Good luck Alex
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Michael Barbaro
19:03
As of Thursday morning, the
Ukrainian
government said that more than 40
Ukrainian
soldiers had died and that dozens had been wounded.
Russia's
defence ministry said it had disabled all of
Ukraine's
air defenses and air bases? But despite being severely outnumbered,
Ukrainian
forces continued to resist telling the
Times
they had shot down six
Russian
fighter jets and a helicopter. And had held back
Russian
forces from two key cities. Meanwhile, both the
United Nations
and the
United States
condemned
Russia
in the strongest possible terms. In a statement,
President Biden
said, quote,
"President Putin
has chosen a premeditated war that will bring a catastrophic loss of life and human suffering." He added, "The world will hold
Russia
accountable."
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20:14
We'll be right back.
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20:38
Here's what else you need to know today. On Wednesday,
Los Angeles County
dropped the requirement that its 10 million residents wear masks indoors as long as they can show proof of vaccination. It was the latest major jurisdiction to lift
COVID
restrictions as infections plunge. The number of new cases in the
US
has fallen 66% in the past two weeks.
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21:08
And, on Wednesday, the
U. S. Postal Service
said it would purchase up to 480,000 gas-powered delivery trucks over the objections of
The White House
, which had encouraged it to invest in green technology. The decision undercuts the climate goals of the Biden administration which has pledged to transition the federal government's fleet of cars to electric vehicles.
The Postal Service
said it lacked the time and money to purchase tens of thousands of electric cars, a claim that
The White House
has disputed.
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21:56
That's it for
The Daily
, I'm
Michael Barbaro
, See You Tomorrow, Yeah.
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