Friday, Jan 21, 2022 • 1h, 27min

The 2022 Movie Auction!

The Big Picture

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We’re auctioning off movies again, this time with a fresh slate for 2022. Chris Ryan joins Sean and Amanda to discuss the new ‘Scream’ sequel (1:00), before revisiting their 2021 draft auction results (16:00), and digging into a new round of competitive auctioneering (22:00). Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Chris Ryan Producer: Bobby Wagner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Twice a week, Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay dissect the biggest topics in black culture, politics, and sports on their show, Higher Learning. They discuss the most important and timely conversations while also frequently inviting guests on the podcast and occasionally debating each other. Check out Higher Learning on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Sean Fennessey

00:24

I'm Sean Fennessey

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Amanda Dobbins

00:25

I'm Amanda Dobbins

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Sean Fennessey

00:26

And this is

The Big Picture

. A conversation show about auctioning off the future. Today is the return of the movie auction on this podcast. We are auctioning off movies from what we think will be films that are released in the year 2022. C. R. Is here to do, so what's up Chris?

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Chris Ryan

00:42

What's going on everybody?

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00:44

Well, you guys have such like a lovely like NPR intro but the people don't know behind the scenes strife in impacting

The Big Picture

right now

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Sean Fennessey

00:53

Before we began recording, we had our typical early chat about how we're going to execute on one of our very stupid ideas. The auction was huge hit in 2021 so we brought it back for a reason. But there have been some complications and you'll hear later in this conversation, some of our complications about the rulemaking, I'll just say as a very brief preview that Amanda is not happy with me at all, and it seems that Amanda 's unborn child is also not happy with me and I'm very sorry about that but this is just how I choose to play these games.

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01:21

Amanda, how are you?

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Amanda Dobbins

01:22

Baby is mad. I'm mad, happily. We were all recording as I absolutely lost my shift on you, but it was just like a very, you guys will hear very classic Sean Fennessy walks into the room and very calmly, it, you know, mandates a set of rules that benefit him and no one else and then just tries to, you know, mess with your mind in a rational tone, being like of course this is how it is, why would it be any other way?

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01:50

And and I it should be other ways frankly and I wanted to let you know that and I did and it was captured loudly on tape.

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Sean Fennessey

02:02

So yeah, later in the show, get ready for me, getting cursed out by Amanda. And before we get into the auction, I did want to talk very briefly and um and I apologize again for you on this podcast, but C. R. and I saw

Scream

,

Scream

5

, the fifth installment in the

Scream

series.

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Amanda Dobbins

02:18

And some people were asking for us to chat about that movie, you know, you haven't had a chance to see it, it's probably for the best because this is quite a grizzly

Film

and um I know that that's not really in your interest set, but it is for Chris and I and the new

Scream

movie is pretty cool.

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Sean Fennessey

02:32

I liked it, it's directed by

Matt Bettinelli-Olpin

and

Tyler Gillett

who are two-thirds of

Radio Silence

a

Horror

trio directing and producing team that have been making movies in recent years. This is kind of like a big step up for them. This is kind of their big break entering the

Horror

franchise game.

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02:47

This is the fifth Scream, but it's just called

Scream

and that's for a pretty good reason, which is that this movie is a requel, it is not a reboot or a sequel, but a requel which has become quite a common phenomenon in movies of late. C. R. you like this movie, what do you like about it?

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Chris Ryan

03:01

I like all

Scream

movies. I don't know what it is. I just think that high school kids or college kids dealing with possessed serial killer wearing a

Ghostface Mask

is just solid material. It's a great foundation from which to build your narrative house and I enjoyed the new cast of characters.

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03:20

I thought that it engaged with the

Scream

lore in a, you know, a winky metal way, but didn't necessarily bog down the entire movie with it.

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03:30

I thought it had some really good performances from the newcomers so that the old hands like

Neve Campbell

and

Courtney cox

and

David Arquette

were like useful but not distracting and I was much more invested in like what was going on with this new generation, and it s stabbing as fuck. Like they really, they really get after it in this movie.

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03:49

It's like a hard R you get some real grizzly kills, which I got to be candid I'm into for the

Scream

movies. That's what I want. If I'm gonna go risk the Cron in locking yada regal at 4 p. m.

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Amanda Dobbins

04:04

Don't give up our spot Chris, I'm allowed to go To this one. But that's yeah, glright keep it up the deal please

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Chris Ryan

04:12

In a movie theater in the Greater Los Angeles area. You can punch that in bob. This is what I wanted from my experience, and I have some thoughts about

Scream

the fifth Scream movie, Sean, but I don't know how spoiler you want to get with this because while it is very popular, it is not on streaming so folks can't see it so I don't want to give away too much.

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Sean Fennessey

04:33

Yeah, we find ourselves in this really weird moment. What were you gonna say?

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Amanda Dobbins

04:35

I was just gonna say I read a plot summary so you guys don't have to worry about spoiling me.

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Sean Fennessey

04:39

Yeah, I don't really want to spoil people cause obviously like the movie

Scream

identifies that actually what makes part of the Scream franchise so fun is that they're all, who done it, you know that they're all basically mystery movies and so you're kind of waiting to find out who's under the

Ghostface Mask

.

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Amanda Dobbins

04:52

I don't think we should spoil it for the probably large majority of movie watchers who have not had a chance to see it despite the fact that in pretty short order it's already made $50 million at the box office, proving yet again that it's not just

Marvel

that is able to succeed even in the face of a global pandemic.

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05:07

It's

Horror

movies.

Halloween Kills

was available on

Peacock

and it's still made a truckload of money and now

Scream's

here and it's doing very very well in theaters.

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Sean Fennessey

05:14

I liked it too for the same reasons you're talking about, Chris. I will say um and I thought of us a little bit as I was watching this movie because as in all

Scream

movies but specifically the first

Film

and this one there are long digressions about the history of movies and the way that people talk about movies.

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Amanda Dobbins

05:30

And I feel like

Scream

the original was like the first movie podcast and it kind of seems like this one is like Movie Podcast 2.0 Because there are a number of characters kind of going back and forth about what they like about movies.

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Chris Ryan

05:41

I need to correct you, Sean. The first movie podcast is

Clerks

with them talking about

Star Wars

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Sean Fennessey

05:47

You're right, that's a great point. That is the O. G. movie pod. But

Scream

picked up the slack and you know Scream 5 I thought I just thought it was pretty fun and I don't think it 's the greatest

Horror

movie I've ever seen. I think it 's like kind of a bad melodrama and I'm not sure if that matters or not.

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06:04

I was trying to figure out Chris one of the things that 's in the movie, and there 's been some essays about this recently to a man, I'm sure you're aware of this as a consumer of all movies, tv and books like the trauma story is going through some analysis right now as to whether or not that 's the best way to tell stories.

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06:18

There is a trauma story at the heart of the new Scream

Film

and I couldn't figure out if they were trying to satirize that trope or just using it to tell the story. What did you think about that?

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Chris Ryan

06:28

So I've also been thinking about this a lot. We're referring to an essay that was in The New Yorker that a lot of people passed around and yeah, and literary credit right now, and it has kind of ruined watching television for me temporarily where like, I'm watching this really excellent um submarine thriller on

Peacock

right now called vigil and I'm just like very distracted by the trauma plot in it, which is, it 's kind of just added on, it 's like there 's already a nuclear submarine with a murder mystery happening.

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06:58

I don't also need this person to be claustrophobic for like a random reason.

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07:03

But yeah, the Scream movie, the thing that I took away from it most is in addition to the trauma stuff is that on the long, if you stretch out these stories long enough, everything comes back around to like, well, you know what character we haven't redeemed yet or explained or slightly moved into this position of maybe heroism outside of villainy is like this is happening in

Star Wars

with Boba fett now.

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07:27

Like it 's happening like with all these different stories where if you make them go long enough, we're going to get a mirror of indian, like, like movie eventually or something. So that was that was a notable thing in your reading of the plot summary.

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Amanda Dobbins

07:40

Amanda did did you did you get a sense of whether or not they were lampooning this idea or celebrating it?

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Speaker 5

07:45

Well, the plat summary was written in a way to indicate that the whole movie is meta. So you hope that maybe they were in on the joke as well. And then as someone who, I loved that essay again, I really recommend it and consumes basically everything you just mentioned except for

Horror

movies.

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08:03

I was kind of thinking like aren't

Horror

movies, sort of the original like trauma plot, but without like the character explication, it 's just kind of like taken for granted that this is someone 's about to go through like extreme trauma and that 's that 's what makes Laurie strode is fine until Halloween.

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Chris Ryan

08:23

You know what I mean? Like Ellen Ripley is fine until she goes on that ship. Like she 's just like a, like a lady, you know what I mean? Like that 's that 's my I that 's the thing I kept thinking about.

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Speaker 5

08:34

So it would sort of seem that it 's in on it just in the sense that it 's like thinking about what a

Horror

movie is. But again, I don't want to get the crime, so I haven't seen the movie.

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Amanda Dobbins

08:43

If it is a satire, it 's actually brilliant and there is a ghostly figure, not ghostface, but a ghostly figure who returns from the past of this story. And if that 's a joke, it 's an amazing joke and if it 's not a joke, if it 's like a serious representation of trauma, I am a little bit more skeptical of the movie honestly because it 's, it 's a little hard to take seriously, but I enjoyed it.

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09:06

Um I think most people who are into the Scream movies would enjoy it. It might be too meta for a certain brand of fan.

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09:12

Um I think there are some people who like

Scream

not as a commentary, but it 's just a kick ass stabbing

Horror

movie. If that 's your bag, maybe not the best you've ever seen, but um there 's a lot to recommend it. Okay, we're gonna, we're gonna have an auction, but before we have an auction, let 's talk about our 20, auctions.

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09:29

Now I will admit when we came up with this idea, we didn't necessarily know everything that we were doing. We also are in the midst of a global pandemic still and so release dates being that they are are a little bit unpredictable. We had two different episodes auctioning films off over the years.

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09:45

Um we each got five movies in each auction. I'm going to just briefly recap. Well actually why don't we individually recap what we got? So I'Ll just say in the two auctions, here 's what I got.

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09:55

I got Top gun,

Maverick

, Dune Matrix resurrections, Black Widow and Cry Macho in the first auction and then in the second auction I got the tragedy of Macbeth,

Halloween Kills

soggy Bottom is what it was then known as and is now understood to be liquors pizza the harder they fall in the card counter Amanda, what did you get in the year two auctions.

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Speaker 5

10:14

Alright, I got the Beatles get back which I do think ultimately did count as a movie. I counted it on my year endless as a movie. No time to die.

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10:25

No sudden move the last tool and the French dispatch that was auction one an auction to blonde the movie that did not come out, don't look up the power of the dog King Richard and Westside story kind of bodied it. I'm gonna be honest except for like, you know, we can, we don't need to talk about, don't look up.

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Amanda Dobbins

10:45

I don't want to relive the discourse but otherwise like I had a sense you had a great draft which is why the future conversation that you'll shortly here I find to be particularly rude but nevertheless Chris. What did you get?

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Chris Ryan

10:60

Let 's Go through my picks. It was the best of times it was the worst of times um in auction one I grabbed House Of Gucci The velvet underground which is my favourite movie from 2021. The guilty which I never actually watched next goal wins which did not come out and last night in soho which I thought was just okay.

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11:18

And the second one um I was one of the greatest performances and the second one I went out and Joe biden just recently talked about how he needs to get out and see the people and he needs to look people in the eye and explain his his fucking like philosophies governing style.

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11:37

He could do a lot worse than to follow what I did in auction too because I got the internals escaped from Spider head which never came out and I'm not actually now convinced that it is shot at all venom, let there be carnage Spiderman. No way home. And red white water. A Jennifer Lawrence movie which also did not come out.

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Speaker 5

11:55

Also can you just note that you paid $490 for red white water?

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Chris Ryan

11:59

Yeah I did some interesting uh some interesting math like as someone who 's really putting I just liquidated my four oh one K. And put it in an N. F. T.

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Speaker 6

12:10

Of of Joel.

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Chris Ryan

12:13

Embiid with the like cool guy sunglasses coming down.

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Speaker 6

12:18

I haven't told my wife that yet.

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Chris Ryan

12:21

So Phoebe, I'm sorry but I've been told they're very secure but Um III played around with a couple of different philosophies in terms of like how I was going to allocate my capital and there was some debate about whether or not those were misguided efforts on my part. But I'm excited to grow and I'm excited to reiterate in 2022.

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Speaker 7

12:45

Could you quickly talk about your philosophy from the first auction which was you had four spots left and everybody else had finished.

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Speaker 6

12:53

I went Bernie Bro, I did it for you gave healthcare to everybody in that pot. I was just like 1 51 51 50 everybody. We're all just the same man. It 's just cinema.

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Amanda Dobbins

13:06

Um I think Amanda had had the strongest showing across both auctions. I think what Chris accomplished in the second auction is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. You actually won in the vote that we posted for that run.

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Speaker 5

13:21

I did hear two or three months later after you saw the

Film

maternal as you um annihilate and I generally don't think of you as the kind of person that annihilates movies But it 's always great when he does it because he lets Andy speak for like 20 minutes and then just comes in very quietly and he 's just like yeah there was nothing about this that I liked everyone involved with this should hide it and he was like I was deeply moved when

Brian Tyree Henry

had a catch out on the lawn and I was like, this movie needs to be fucking evacuated from the library of Congress and flushed down the toilet.

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Amanda Dobbins

13:53

Chris let me ask you this. Did you, did you see the

Film

venom let there be carnage? I did.

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Chris Ryan

13:58

Did you think I wanted to get ready for no way home? You know? And I knew that there was going to be some connective tissues so to speak. Um, I thought that movie was batshit, but at least it was going for something, you know what I mean? I guess the turtles was going for something too, but it just missed me wide left, you know?

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Amanda Dobbins

14:15

Um, I guess I feel fine about my draft. I got like three or four of my favorite movies of the year and then I got a bunch of stuff that I don't think turned out very well. I'm a little bit ashamed of The Black Widow pick now that I look back upon it.

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14:27

I could have and should have known that that wasn't gonna work out well I was a little disappointed by the harder they fall. But then I still, I got the card counter, I got licorice pizza. I got doomed. I got some good stuff.

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Speaker 5

14:36

I'm not sure completely right here, but I do think Chris brought Black Widow to market and then you just like bought it for a dollar more because Chris had an amazing strategy in the first auction of just dropping out of every single auction.

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Chris Ryan

14:51

David harbor films.

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Amanda Dobbins

14:52

Yeah, sort of like that 's sort of like when um, steve cohen the, the billionaire investor and owner of my beloved Mets bought a Picasso and then put his elbow through it. You know, that 's me drafting Black Widow. It 's not really ideal. Um, so there, there 's, there 's some complications about what we should do with the films that did not come out.

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15:14

What I thought we should do is any

Film

that was not actually released but was auctioned off should be retained by the person who was rewarded it in the previous auction. Now, I would say that concept was not necessarily warmly received by my colleagues or at least one of my colleagues on the pot.

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15:32

So you can hear what we discussed at the beginning of this conversation 10 minutes before the beginning of this podcast, I have one wrinkle to that, which is that I feel that the films that were auctioned off that rolled that like didn't come out, you retain, they don't go back into the pool or I would just say that they have been, they have been drafted.

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Speaker 6

15:58

Yes, absolutely not. No fucking kidding me, paralyzed, not being able to read that. Are you ducking kidding me?

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Speaker 8

16:11

Absolutely not. Everything goes back into the draft if your bill didn't come out in 2021 that was on you for not correctly reading the landscape, you got screwed.

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Amanda Dobbins

16:22

No, why not? I literally don't understand. Like have you done an auction before these items are gone. They're off the board.

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Speaker 8

16:29

Have you done an auction before This is all made up?

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Amanda Dobbins

16:34

But you can be penalized in the vote for not getting a movie that came out that year because no one saw it so we can't evaluate it. But you then retain it and it rolls over and it 's not eligible to be drafted in the future. Does that not make sense? So boring?

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Speaker 6

16:50

But also everything should go back into the pool.

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Speaker 5

16:53

What are you talking about? It seems logical to me. I was not informed of this I think, but you're rewarded for your risk.

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Amanda Dobbins

17:02

That 's the point Like you could, you could try to draft killers of the flower moon this in this in this draft, but we don't know if it 's coming. It might not come out to the 2023 but that 's, there 's a risk reward here.

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Speaker 5

17:13

There 's no reward by the time it 's 2023 we're like looking at the, you know, lists of things. No one cares. We have to live in the moment a bit more. I just, this is really, I'm outraged. I can't believe you think that this is how this should work.

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Amanda Dobbins

17:28

I mean it it just it just seems like the best possible way to get content and I was right.

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Speaker 7

17:34

Like again, it 's clearly that says I'm so glad we pressed record Sean was your vision that it would roll over and you would keep it and it would occupy one of your spots for that same price.

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Amanda Dobbins

17:47

Okay, how about that? Is that is that is a twist that you could say, oh you can elect to capture, you have to give up the cap room that I choose to, I choose to retain but you give up the dollars amount now. That that actually is a really good idea. Okay, Because then I could say and how much did I pay for that movie?

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Speaker 7

18:05

Did a lot 255 is what you paid for magic.

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18:09

So How it would work in like an auction. Fantasy League is you'd have to pay a premium to keep it. You know, you'd have to pay an extra like 10% or 20% or whatever it actually is in fantasy leagues, we could we could do it that way. So that would take a part of your budget.

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Chris Ryan

18:22

We should have waited three more weeks to do this part. So that Shawn could have induced labor.

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Speaker 8

18:26

But it 's on the goddamn table like like Zach packed a bag.

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Speaker 5

18:32

I won't read those blogs ready to go.

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Amanda Dobbins

18:34

So I will I will for the sake of my cattle. I don't I will put it back in the pool.

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Speaker 5

18:41

Don't do me any favors.

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Speaker 8

18:42

I don't want it at this point, You ruined it. It 's fine.

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Speaker 5

18:46

What you have it, you're being unimaginative, you're being like Reddit nerd person, but that 's fine. It 's okay.

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Amanda Dobbins

18:54

You have actually being more imaginative by creating new rules that help better understand the game.

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Speaker 5

19:00

But like if you want to keep it, keep it Sean.

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Amanda Dobbins

19:03

Do you think it should count against my cap?

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Speaker 7

19:05

Yes, I think it should definitely count against your cap and I think it should. I think you should have to pay a premium to keep it to.

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Amanda Dobbins

19:11

What would be the, what would be the penalty for retaining it?

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19:15

Is it like 10% of the auction price, something like that?

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Chris Ryan

19:18

I'Ll be completely honest when I look at the list of movies that I have in like my power rankings here, I'm more excited about this batch than anything I drafted last year. But that 's also because I'm a guy who likes to turn the page, you know what I mean? I'm looking, I'm always looking forward.

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Amanda Dobbins

19:33

Mhm Do you think we're gonna have to cut this into a later part of the pod?

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Speaker 7

19:38

I think so.

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Amanda Dobbins

19:39

Okay. Um I mean, I'm trying to find a way to get you what you need Amanda?

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Speaker 5

19:44

It 's too late. It 's done.

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Chris Ryan

19:46

That 's, that is the most Sean the negotiator thing you've ever said to find a way to get you what you need.

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Speaker 7

19:55

This is like when I was trying to buy my car and the guy was just sitting there in front of the computer. He 's like, if you put this much down here 's what you're gonna pay per month. He 's like showing me we're actually gonna lose money on this car. I'm like you're not gonna lose money on this car.

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Amanda Dobbins

20:05

Maybe I missed my calling. I should have been a used car salesman. Okay.

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Chris Ryan

20:09

Like I gotta talk to my manager. I don't know. I just don't think I can go back with this number. He has to authorize this made offer.

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Speaker 7

20:15

This deal to you.

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Chris Ryan

20:16

Look, I mean like basically like this is docking my pay if I do this, you know?

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Speaker 7

20:20

But for you because you came here on this day so we're looking for like an acceptable like a premium to pay to keep it.

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Speaker 5

20:31

Okay. What about 100 bucks? Which is 10% of your Yeah.

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Amanda Dobbins

20:35

Like that will influence whether I put it back in the pool too. Like if I if I don't want to be dinged Basically 1/3 of my budget before we've even started to have one movie that I actually I don't care about as much as you do.

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Chris Ryan

20:48

I don't I'm not I don't feel as strongly just because I want to spend my my time talking about the future of cinema, you know, because I'm not looking. I just don't think there 's nothing I have on my list that I was like, man, I'Ll draft that again or I want that not rolling over Spider head. I don't think so, I don't know. I still don't know that they shot that movie Actually.

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Amanda Dobbins

21:08

If you roll over Spider head, I'Ll give you $25 of my own.

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Speaker 6

21:12

Okay.

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Amanda Dobbins

21:17

Should we start officially?

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Speaker 7

21:18

Sure. Yeah, I think so. Okay.

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Speaker 5

21:21

The baby 's really upset now he 's moving around a lot. Sean has made a great point yelling and the agitation and he 's just like kicking like crazy. All right, simmer down low guys, please.

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Amanda Dobbins

21:35

Oh, okay. Let 's try to let 's let 's bring some dulcet tones. So bring your your positive down.

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Chris Ryan

21:41

Michael, Jack Schmidt, Brian Dawkins Baron Dobbins.

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Amanda Dobbins

21:47

All right.

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Speaker 9

21:51

And now back to the podcast.

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Amanda Dobbins

21:54

Okay, so here 's where we landed. Which I think is reasonable, which is ultimately if you want to retain a

Film

that you were rewarded in the auction, you may do. So heading into the new year. However, there is a penalty for holding on to that

Film

. So in addition to For example, the $255 that I spent on top gun,

Maverick

which would then be taken from my pool of $1,000 to start this year.

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22:21

I would also have to pay a $100 tax and any

Film

that we wanted to roll over. If cr wanted to retain escape from Spider head and then write the script and go out and shoot that

Film

, which does not exist. He would also have to pay $100 in addition to the $80 that he paid for it on top of the Joel Embiid N.

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Chris Ryan

22:40

F. T. That I would have to liquidate to fund the production of that movie.

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Amanda Dobbins

22:45

So I think that that 's a that 's a reasonable takeaway now in order to do that, we would have to make those decisions right here and right now Amanda, are you are you officially okay with that decision? Yes.

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Chris Ryan

22:56

So can I ask a question. So that means that if we carry these movies over there not up for any bidding right?

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Amanda Dobbins

23:02

It 's not like the bidding starts at whatever then they are just on your slate and they take up one of your five spots in your auction now just for the sake of good governance. I I will put Maverick back in the fold because I don't I don't I don't but I don't want it so I'm willing to I don't want to take up one of my five spots.

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23:20

See this is the thing now is that it just doesn't it 's not fun because you're like you know what will a man to get Top Gun Maverick is there is a theme we can now thread through the next hour.

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Speaker 5

23:28

I know that 's why I said just put it in the auction in the first place but you have to make me get really angry and you know upset the next generation and now I feel like I'm just in like a little Maverick being handed something you're not saying something like you know, a pity auction, I could get into that, you know what I mean?

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Chris Ryan

23:47

Like I think it is also, I think it 's really fascinating to consider like has like world events over the last eight months, like changed your opinion of Top Gun Maverick, like all this unrest in

Ukraine

, like maybe like no disrespect to to our listeners in Kiev. I'm actually asking like maybe you don't want to support a movie about the military industrial complex.

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Amanda Dobbins

24:07

I don't think that 's a problem for you man.

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24:10

Yeah, but I do think that putting you to the decision of saying like, do I want this or not on my slate also, you know, we are almost certainly going to do another one of these in july the movie may not be out by then.

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24:20

You could get it in round two and then you could have seriously not going to put it out in the spring. I mean who knows, I thought it was april well, but part of the issue here is that we don't really know how to navigate this landscape when I drafted it.

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24:32

I've I thought for sure it was going to come out and then it did not, I don't think I wasn't necessarily sure that Red White and water was going to come out or the escape from Spider Head was real, but you know, um okay, well, so that

Film

is back in the, in the, in the fray, do you?

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24:47

The other films that were drafted next goal wins? Red white and water and escape from Spider head Chris those are your three that did not get released. Do you want to retain them?

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24:56

Okay then. What about blonde?

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Speaker 5

24:58

I'm going to let it go as well in part because as you noted, it still doesn't have a release date and it 's sort of living in the, is it dark water or deepwater? Deepwater Adrian Lion Ben Affleck.

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25:15

I know, but you know, I'm just hoping for like an unrated version at home. Give the people what they want for both of these.

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Amanda Dobbins

25:23

Um wouldn't it be great if we just woke up one Friday and they just dropped deep water without any when we just, we'd go and watch it and then auto pod, just dive into a 75 minute conversation about it. Um Okay, so let me just recount the rules for those of you who are listening to a movie auction for the first time because the 1st 40 minutes of this conversation must have seemed utterly insane.

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25:44

Each of us gets $1,000 of imaginary money to bid on any

Film

of our choosing. Really. We each get an opportunity to put certain films up. Each

Film

on the slate must have the expectation of a 20, release date and if it 's not officially on the calendar that you know the thought is that we think this movie is coming out this year.

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26:01

We each get to choose from five movies. We bidders open with a new title and snake fashion and we're going to make it 30 seconds to make a new bid before the movie goes to the current bid holder just to try to compress some of this. Does that seem okay to you guys?

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Speaker 5

26:15

I have one question. Yes. Movies, If if you've seen the movie you can't bid on it.

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Amanda Dobbins

26:22

Yeah, I think we should have avoid bidding on anything we've seen. Is that seems I tried to do that last time. Yeah.

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Chris Ryan

26:28

Are you so you can't bid on Avatar to Amanda?

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Speaker 5

26:30

Yeah, as you know I've you know been in the water tank just monitoring the situation but I'm going to abstain out of respect for you guys.

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Amanda Dobbins

26:39

Um Okay, I mean I think, I think that 's everything and so we should choose an auction order. So Bobby, do you wanna do your magic?

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Speaker 7

26:46

Yeah, I've already, I've already spun the wheel while you guys were kind of arguing and and laying out the rules, The order is Chris is going to nominate first. Amanda will nominate second and Shaun you will nominate third, wow.

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Amanda Dobbins

26:55

Okay intense.

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Speaker 5

26:57

So Chris, do you know what you're doing here, this is good, this is like when I just started the first one with House Of Gucci, you know the last couple of months?

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Chris Ryan

27:06

I feel like one of the undercurrents of

The Big Picture

has been, we're fucked Movies like what what 's going to happen and I wanted to say that I looked at the list of movies that are supposed to come out in 2022. I don't feel really optimistic. I feel like movies are back. I love a bunch of the like I can't wait to see so many of these movies.

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27:28

I went through a list of like 100 movies that are anticipated most anticipated movies of this year. I was like I want to see like 60 movies and I really hope that we, we just build back better here. You know bring bring all these movies to theaters, let 's get in there, let 's get let 's get boosted. Give me the cinema booster is what I'm saying.

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Amanda Dobbins

27:47

And so let 's start off with that 's a beautiful speech that was you also just mix some metaphors there. I feel like who 's the Joe Manchin in this in this draft? If we're going to build back better, that 's what I'm concerned about.

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Chris Ryan

28:00

Let 's start off with one that 's probably near and dear to all three of our hearts and uh let 's start out with Jordan peel 's new feature, nope, which we don't know anything about.

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Amanda Dobbins

28:11

Yeah. Is this the movie that all three of us are most aligned and intrigued by.

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Chris Ryan

28:17

Well the reason why I threw it out there is because there are a couple that you know might be

Netflix

movies or might be, you know like their their franchise movies or whatever the, you know? Um even even if you were not the hugest fan of us, I think the thing that Jordan 's does really well is create um uh like an experience that you really wouldn't want to see on the friday night.

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28:38

The movie comes out like you wouldn't wanna, you would want to see it in a room full of people in the dark not knowing anything about it. I always hope there 's no trailer for this movie. I hope this movie is just like, it 's nope Elizabeth Moss is in it.

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28:50

Come see it if you want, you know, you know what I mean? And so I just think that this kind of is the thing that recalls for me seeing in uh seeing us in Texas with you Sean I think um and just the excitement around that. And so yeah, let 's let 's open, nope. And let 's, let 's start at uh $160 Strong opening bid strong pick for a

Film

.

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Amanda Dobbins

29:11

I'Ll go $200. I'Ll go to 10.

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Chris Ryan

29:15

Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go to 50, which is an interesting number to get to because that 's the the top gun number and I think that now that we've had some time to really process and digest these movies in this auction style you start to have like, okay, so this went for this, so maybe I can get it at around that, you know what I mean we have a little bit of A little tape to study. So I'm gonna go to 50 I'Ll say to 75.

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Amanda Dobbins

29:36

I really really want to see this movie and I'd like to have ownership of it long term.

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Speaker 5

29:40

Okay. Right. Because that 's how this works now. That 's so great. They're going to be sending all of the the box office back into you.

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Amanda Dobbins

29:48

Um We should create a sound effect that indicates when you're rolling your eyes at me on this show and every time you roll your eyes at me.

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Speaker 8

29:55

And I also love that.

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Speaker 5

29:56

Like Chris is really in like peacemaker mode right now.

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Speaker 8

29:59

You know, he 's just like, I can feel his energy.

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Speaker 5

30:02

Yeah. 10 seconds. I'Ll do 300, okay $300.

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Amanda Dobbins

30:08

One of the fun things about these episodes is just that they're vamp city. You know, I'Ll do 325. You're trying to interrupt my speech but I agree that it 's vamp city.

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Chris Ryan

30:18

But I I'm trying I'm trying to be strategic this time.

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Amanda Dobbins

30:21

I'Ll say $333. Mhm.

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30:25

That 's 1/3 of my budget.

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Chris Ryan

30:27

Let 's do 3 50 now.

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Amanda Dobbins

30:29

It 's getting exciting. I like it. 350. The highest paid price for a

Film

through all of these auctions I believe was 5 15 which I paid for. Like how much was Matrix Matrix was 3 55. And you of course got red white and water for $490. Well that was just the surplus. That 's right.

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Speaker 7

30:52

You've got 10 seconds and Chris holds 3 50 3 75 wow, this is a big one.

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Amanda Dobbins

31:01

I think this is number two on my list of most anticipated movies. I'Ll go 3 83 80. What if this movie sucks?

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Chris Ryan

31:09

There 's that, this is a tough thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 5

31:12

It'll still be fun though. It'll still be an event experience. That 's true.

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Amanda Dobbins

31:17

Where are, where are you at on us?

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Chris Ryan

31:19

Well, you know, it 's another one of those movies that I think in the theater and maybe the second time I saw it, I was just like, you know, like I just think it missed on a couple of elements of it but has grown in my estimation since then, which I think is, you know the testament of a movie that I mean, what what what what about you, have you, have you kind of revised any of your takes on it?

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31:38

Have you thought about it much since then?

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Amanda Dobbins

31:39

No, I think Amanda and I were both pretty pro when it came out. And we tried to like, we took a pretty sincere look at what we thought it was going for even if all the pieces didn't totally fit together. But it 's the kind of movie also now like 10 seconds. Um, I guess I'Ll say 385 now that I'm starting to romanticize my viewing experience of us here on the podcast.

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Speaker 5

32:00

I mean it 's fun to have big movies that a lot of people see that you can talk about and in like not in like a cannon. Well this is what is supposed to happen in episode four of something.

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Amanda Dobbins

32:15

Who are you?

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Speaker 5

32:20

That 's, you know, you sometimes can access that voice and then I do roll my eyes Sometimes Access 400.

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32:28

Yes Chris 400.

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Amanda Dobbins

32:32

You're getting up to red white and water territory here. It 's tough. Amanda got some good deals.

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Chris Ryan

32:37

There 's a lot of value on the back end of this year. There 's a ton of movies here. Just a ton. I got four pages of movies with notes.

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Amanda Dobbins

32:43

You're really trying to get, nope. Huh?

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Chris Ryan

32:45

Just saying, I'm saying I can go big for, nope. And if I don't get it, I'm okay if I get it, I got a lot of, a lot, a lot of um role players coming.

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Amanda Dobbins

32:54

4 10.

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Chris Ryan

32:55

I mean, I'm still interested, I'm gonna back out because I think you're trying to bid me up.

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Amanda Dobbins

32:59

Okay, that 's, I mean, I'm happy to get one of my most anticipated movies. No, downside for me.

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33:05

That 's a good one. So 4 10. So I'm now left with $590 and Amanda, you are up to bid Top Gun Maverick 100 dollars actually.

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Chris Ryan

33:20

Seriously, because like we know what 's going to happen, Everybody Known what 's going to happen like. So one could almost say that some of what you've done today was performance to intimidate us into not getting who can say well I'm gonna make you pay for a Little Bit. So I'm gonna say 200.

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Amanda Dobbins

33:37

I'm Gonna say $354 so that I can get at least a deal on this

Film

.

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Chris Ryan

33:43

If I would if I get it Wait wouldn't you then be it like 200 left if you did that.

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Amanda Dobbins

33:50

Yeah, sure. But I get Top Gun Maverick, which is one of the best movies.

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Speaker 5

33:53

Sure.

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Speaker 6

33:53

We have absolutely no idea.

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Speaker 5

33:56

We don't know anything because paramount will not answer anyone 's emails.

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Amanda Dobbins

34:00

Here 's here 's what I get. If I if I get it and Amanda chooses not to bid up on this then I win the spite war of this podcast.

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Speaker 7

34:08

You got 10 seconds before.

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Amanda Dobbins

34:12

There you go. Thank you Amanda. I did not want to win this fight for. I just wanted to get a deal. I I'm not bidding up anymore on this Chris come play the game Chris come on, I'm playing I there 's a lot of movies I want to be like I'm not trying to be nasty about this but I do feel like I've emotionally and mentally like this has been a long walk to get T.

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Chris Ryan

34:33

G colon em to the theaters man and like there 's a lot of cool movies coming out in 2022.

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Speaker 5

34:41

It 's okay. I won't be mad at you. I don't, I only get it in this way well I'Ll be mad at Shawn No matter what again. That 's the why I get up in the morning. But if you wanna, if you wanna get frisky it 's fine.

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Chris Ryan

34:52

I want to keep my powder dry for some other titles.

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Amanda Dobbins

34:56

I think 3 75 is a great deal.

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Speaker 5

34:57

3 75 Bobby. How much time do we have left? Because I don't trust Shawn.

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Speaker 7

35:03

Uh no, you're said that time is back.

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Speaker 6

35:06

Imagine if I dive bombed in like

Maverick

, you could have kept bidding me up.

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Amanda Dobbins

35:11

You both know that who is are you, are you Maverick or iceman? I feel like you're iceman.

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Speaker 5

35:16

I'm really okay with that.

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Chris Ryan

35:18

She is definitely iceman.

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Speaker 7

35:20

Are you more or less excited for this

Film

than you were two full years ago?

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Speaker 5

35:26

I'm more excited at this point. I just Bobby. I want to go have fun at the movies and I want the music playing really loud. I want to see my friend Tom Cruise. I want to see Miles teller. I want to see Glen Powell. I love Ed Harris in you know, sort of flying vehicle related movie. See also Apollo 13. I just Yes, I would, I would like to see this movie. I think I have made my position clear.

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Amanda Dobbins

35:51

This movie now needs to be a combination of terminator two judgment day and Fellini 's 8.5 to satisfy your expectations and I'm a little for this movie is going to be nonsense at this point in my life.

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Speaker 5

36:02

Oh my God! At this point in my life me being able to sit in a movie theater and watch like a big budget movie with movie stars And it 's really loud, just sounds like Christmas Times 10. It could it could be dogshit and I won't care.

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Amanda Dobbins

36:17

Congratulations on your acquisition. I'm going to keep the cruise train rolling. Mission Impossible Seven. Let 's go. I'm going to open the bidding at $145.

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Chris Ryan

36:27

$175.

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Amanda Dobbins

36:29

$200.

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Chris Ryan

36:30

2 25. Remember when we when we just like went and saw fall out like three times in the movie theaters?

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Amanda Dobbins

36:35

We were just reminiscing about this because that was a birthday movie for us. Um I'Ll say 2 26 2 50 two 75. There 's a bunch of movies that are going to come out that you guys don't care about that I'm super into and I can hold I could probably even get for $1 like like what? No, I'm not going to stay here.

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Chris Ryan

36:57

Multiverse of Madness.

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Amanda Dobbins

36:59

No, it 's not really on the board for me right now. I am really interested in M. I. Seven. The mission impossible franchise has not let me down. Not since M. I. Have I been let down by this franchise. I'Ll say 300. I feel great to have this movie under my under my belt even though it means dimension. There we go. Good cr get on the board buddy. Come on going out there.

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37:20

You know, we each get a blockbuster 3 10. Gosh, I want to keep going. I want to keep going, but I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm reluctant to let you guys box me in a movie you don't want. But then I want to stick you with the movie that I wanted and you don't want. That 's also fun.

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37:35

Come on. Amanda play the game.

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Chris Ryan

37:36

I know, I'm just trying to honestly think of what to do what you know what 's tough about this one is, I don't know what it 's about and now that doesn't necessarily matter that much. But like do we have a villain yet?

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Speaker 7

37:46

Like we got About five seconds left curves.

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Amanda Dobbins

37:50

Amanda says 350 25 curbs is back. What I read is that this is Ethan Hunt 's fight against cancel culture.

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Speaker 6

37:57

Okay. It 's podcasting from an undisclosed location and it 's just him and chappelle Ethan Hunt goes on Rogan, You have no idea what we do.

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Speaker 7

38:14

Six minutes after that pod comes out, Chris would send me the Youtube link like it wouldn't even, you wouldn't have even listened to it yet.

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Chris Ryan

38:21

I sent Bobby. The link to the Joe Rogan talks to

H. R. McMaster

pod.

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Amanda Dobbins

38:25

I couldn't believe it really happened.

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Chris Ryan

38:29

I didn't watch it or listening to it.

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Speaker 7

38:30

I was just like holy sh it, it exists sort of as like a reason for Chris and I to slack each other one message and the reason I, and we didn't really talk about?

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Chris Ryan

38:37

This?

H. R. McMaster

is wearing a truly insane shirt in this podcast.

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Speaker 6

38:42

It 's like Chris has 3 25.

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Speaker 7

38:44

You have about five seconds. One final, one final call.

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Speaker 5

38:46

3 30.

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Amanda Dobbins

38:48

I mean who wants to? She wants the crews.