Wednesday, Oct 7, 2020 • 17min

Dua Lipa - Levitating

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Dua Lipa is a Grammy-winning singer and songwriter from London. Her second album, Future Nostalgia, came out in March 2020. It hit #1 on the charts in thirteen countries, and it was shortlisted for the UK’s Mercury Prize. Dua co-wrote the song "Levitating" with some of her closest collaborators, including producer Stephen Kozmeniuk, AKA Koz. In this episode, Dua and Koz break down “Levitating” and how Dua’s childhood memories shaped its sound. songexploder.net/dua-lipa https://songexploder.net/dua-lipa
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Dua Lipa
Stephen Kozmeniuk
Hrishikesh Hirway
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Hrishikesh Hirway
00:00
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Hrishikesh Hirway
01:23
This episode contains explicit language.
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01:25
Dua Lipa
is a
Grammy
winning singer and songwriter from
London
, her second album,
Future Nostalgia
came out in March 2020. It hit number one on the charts in 13 countries, and it was shortlisted for the
UK's
Mercury Prize
.
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Speaker 2
01:39
One of the songs on the record is
Levitating
.
Dua
co-wrote it with some of her closest collaborators, including producer,
Stephen Kozmeniuk
aka
Koz
. In this episode
Dua
and
Koz
breakdown,
Levitating
and explain how do as childhood memories shape the song's sound.
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Dua Lipa
01:57
I got you, moonlight, you're my starlight, I need you all night, come on, dance with me, I'm
Levitating
. My name is
Dua Lipa.
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02:12
The day I wrote this song, I actually know the exact date,
Levitating
was created on 28 August 2018. I guess I just started writing for the second record, still figuring out where I wanted to go with it.
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02:28
But knowing what my album title was going to be, which is
Future Nostalgia
. And I knew I wanted to touch on my childhood influences, and a lot of my childhood influences are really songs and music that my parents listened to. A lot of
Jamiroquai
,
Prince
,
Blondie
. And when those songs are played now, that just brings back such a rush of fun and exciting like emotions and all I want to do is dance and immediately takes me back to when I was a kid and I wanted to play on that emotion and that feeling and those memories and create something with like a fresh modern twist.
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Stephen Kozmeniuk
03:09
I'm
Koz
I'm the producer of
Levitating.
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Dua Lipa
03:13
Koz
it is such an incredible instrumentalist and producer and artist in his own right, and we've worked together for a really long time.
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Stephen Kozmeniuk
03:22
Usually before we go into work, like I'll spend a couple of weeks or a month just like coming up with ideas to play when we hit the studio.
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Dua Lipa
03:28
Before the session, I'd kind of like sent him like some notes and some stuff that I've been inspired by.
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Stephen Kozmeniuk
03:34
She definitely had the idea of blending a lot of old stuff with new stuff, and I just thought like the best way to reinterpret the past was just use old instruments.
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03:44
I had been looking for this synth forever, called
The Roland VP-330
. I've probably been looking for six, seven, eight years and then one day I found it in
Tokyo
, got it back to
Toronto
, I just plugged it in and literally the first thing I played was like what turned into
Levitating
.
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04:01
The whole song was basically just built around that one patch, you know, this great synthetic choir sound, It was the first thing I play on it and I just happened to be recording because sometimes I feel it's just the best time to catch something and then just kind of looped it and started building a song around it, and then it has like a sound that's like analog strings and that's also that synth.
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04:34
You know, it's like you don't want a keyboard that does like 100 things, you want one that does just a couple of things really well, and just has like, a vibe and a sound. I was kind of thinking it would be cool to do this kind of like a slinky disco track.
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04:48
It was pretty simple. A lot of these times, you don't build them out too much, you just build out, like, just a great vibe to kind of write to and then forget about them until you hit the studio and then hit play.
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Dua Lipa
05:02
I wrote
Levitating
. There were some of my close friends and collaborators,
Sarah Hudson
, Coffee Clarence Jr. and
Koz
. And I've worked with all three of them for so long, and Coffee is brilliant with melodies and
Sarah
is very much like a Fairy Godmother, and she starts every session with a tarot reading. It would be like, another way of opening up and talking about, like, our experiences of what was going on in life, and it instantly changes the energy in the room.
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Stephen Kozmeniuk
05:36
It's always a good laugh with all of us. But sessions are an interesting thing because it's actually quite nerve wracking.
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Dua Lipa
05:43
And so when we went to the studio, he was like, okay, he's like, I have some tracks, he's like, I'd love to like, play some stuff that I've been working on with, like you in mind and what you kind of told me. I think maybe
Levitating
was one of the first tracks he played.
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Stephen Kozmeniuk
05:58
Someone would have their phone out and just as you were playing the beats and stuff like, you get your immediate reaction to melody and you just kind of capture it. Just so you don't forget it when you go back to it.
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06:10
This one stemmed pretty heavily from
Dua
in the room. It can happen so many different ways, people just start singing something, but I remember like
Dua
really led this one.
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Dua Lipa
06:19
Almost immediately, we went into the melody of. And then you kind of hear
Sarah
in the background going, "oh my God!"
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06:31
It came so naturally, and we were just ready to go, and it just felt like such an easy like "yes, that's what we're going into".
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Stephen Kozmeniuk
06:46
She was like instant on the melody.
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Dua Lipa
06:49
You know, you make it up along the way, but it's just all about like the feeling.
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06:55
We had the visual of being in like an
Austin Powers
movie and having
Mike Myers
just somehow like doing some random
Levitating
dance that we were just making up, that was just like helping give us a mood while we were writing the lyrics.
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07:14
We ordered these donuts because I was like, "how are we going to spice this up?" And so I bought some donuts, we all had total, like sugar rush and just started writing, and I think that we were literally
Levitating
from the sugar rush.
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07:31
We had such a good feeling like going into that song. If you wanna run away with me, I know a galaxy and I can take you for a ride, I had a premonition that we fell into a rhythm where the music don't stop for life.
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07:48
I recorded my vocals on the same day. I do all the lead vocals and then, some backing vocals. You want me, I want you baby, my sugar boo. I'm
Levitating
.
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07:60
We have the lyrics sugar boo, which is quite funny because it's something that we call each other and thought it would be kind of a cute thing to put in, but it's more something that we're like, we say as a funny joke, and I was like, are we sure we want to put this in the song, and it just seemed like such a funny, cute thing and an ode to like our friendship. My sugar boo, I'm
Levitating
.
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08:24
I love collaborating and creating like such fun personal relationships with the people that I'm writing with because we can be so silly and be so open with each other and because we have that friendship and that's really important. I think a big part of like songwriting is like daring to be a bit shit.
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08:42
Like I have an idea that's you know, you don't know whether it's good or not, but you have to almost like say it. Doing the second record, I knew that I wanted to make it with my friends and people that had worked with for so long and people that I was so comfortable around that I felt like I didn't have anything to prove.
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08:59
And Coffee, he would help and like elevate the melodies and every time it would be better when Coffee's gets his hands on it. Glitter in the sky, glitter in our eyes shining just the way we are, I feel like we're forever every time we get together, but whatever, let's get lost on Mars.
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09:18
I feel like we found ourselves dancing all the way through making this record like nonstop even when we weren't completely finished or even if we were having a writer's block or even if we were still figuring it out and working on the production, like there wasn't a moment where we weren't just kind of feeling the music and having fun.
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09:36
I got you, moonlight, you're my starlight, I need you all night, come on, dance with me, I'm levitating.
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Stephen Kozmeniuk
09:47
The way the hook is actually thrown away like that, I think is so cool in the songs that you know, "I'm levitating", iIt's just like very like, it's not where you kind of like see the traditional hook, It didn't feel like it was trying too hard, it felt a bit more like laid back.
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Dua Lipa
10:01
I'm levitating. And then I take it into like a more talky thing because I wanted to get my British accent out a bit more because a lot of the time when I sing, I guess people can't tell that I'm British, and I'm like, okay, this is, I have to take the melody out of it and I have to like talk sing it.
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10:17
My love is like a rocket, watch it blast off, and I'm feeling so electric, dance my ass off, and even if I wanted to, I can't stop. And then we do some gang vocals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are always really funny to make them like we wanted to make it like sound really yappy and really childish and the part that everyone can like join in on and stuff.
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10:39
We were all like quite in a tight area, so we would put the mic on one side of the room, so we would get like different sounds coming from different parts of the room and somebody would be closer and somebody would be further away. You want me, I want you, baby, my sugarboo, I'm levitating.
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10:55
Not only do we just like go in and do it with our own voices, but then we go in and put on voices, and we do like, we create like personas, every kind of vocal take that we do like for the BVs, it's always really fun.
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11:07
It's all about like the ambiance and creating like a whole world around the song that's beyond just the lyrics and the vocal, it's about like the whole story behind it.
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11:28
We did the whole song in a day.
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Stephen Kozmeniuk
11:32
We just stormed through, got all the sections, cut everything in the room.
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Dua Lipa
11:36
And then like towards the end of it we asked to work with
Stuart Price
.
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Stephen Kozmeniuk
11:40
He produced
Confessions On The Dance Floor
from
Madonna
and other great records,
Killers
,
Pet Shop Boys
.
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Dua Lipa
11:46
And he just basically helped with the fundamental bass groove. Like he kind of went in and brought more bounce to the song.
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Stephen Kozmeniuk
12:00
And then there's like a high drone synth at one point. I mean, it's such like a disco trope, but it's just like it was perfect and then it just kind of held through in this one section.
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Dua Lipa
12:19
He also added a string part in the pre-chorus, which was really cool.
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12:31
Alongside that
Koz
I was a fan of this TalkBox player called Bosko Kante. He like reached out for him to come in and play on the song as well.
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Stephen Kozmeniuk
12:49
I love TalkBox, I think it's like the coolest thing in the world.
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Dua Lipa
12:55
There's like little bits layered here and there that just gives it like a cool like old school'80s zap funk undertones into it.
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13:06
It's a song that just makes me feel so good, it makes me want to dance. But then once it's out and into the world, almost that song doesn't belong to me anymore, but it belongs to everyone that's come to see the show and the memories that holds for them, and it excites me so much to get out and perform a song that was just kind of taken a life of its own and has created memories.
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Hrishikesh Hirway
13:37
Have you ever thought about the idea of a kid being in the position that you were in with your parents? Like some kid out there who's listening to their parents listen to your music.
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Dua Lipa
13:51
You know, I haven't really thought of it that way, that would be so cool. It's really exciting to think that maybe someone could be influenced like that by my music, but it's also such a, such a crazy thought.
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Hrishikesh Hirway
14:15
And now here's
Levitating
by
Dua Lipa
in its entirety.
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17:41
For more, visit songexploder. net. You'll find links to buy or stream
Levitating
and you can watch the music video for it.
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Hrishikesh Hirway
19:01
Song Exploder is made by me
Hrishikesh Hirway
with producer, Christian Koons, production assistant Olivia Wood and illustrator Carlos Lerma. Song Exploder is a proud member of
Radiotopia
from PRX, a collective of creative independent podcasts. You can learn more about our shows at radiotopia. fm.
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Hrishikesh Hirway
19:34
My name is
Hrishikesh Hirway
, thanks for listening. Radiotopia from PRX.
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