There was a man there from the British Army at the same time and we walked around together. And somehow, the subject of records and music and recording came up and he asked me if I had heard this machine down at Radio Frankfurt. And I just said, "Is it a tape machine?" And, he said, "Yes." And I said, "What is this, one of those magnetic phones?" And he said, "Yes, that's right." I said, "Sure, fine." I discounted what his raving about it because up to that time, all our experience has been with the low fidelity job. And I thought, well, he just didn't have very good ears. But he said, we ought to go and listen to it.