Thursday, Apr 21, 2022 • 1h, 51min

Joe Rogan - Podcaster, UFC Commentator & Comedian

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In a special 4/20 episode, Mike Tyson & co-host Sebastian Joseph-Day sat down with Joe Rogan in his studio in Austin, Texas to discuss a variety of topics. In this episode, the guys spoke about: cancel culture, aliens, DMT, cannabis legalization, Elon Musk, "wokeness", Chimaev vs. Gilbert Burns, Kamaru Usman vs. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, Conor McGregor's return, Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul, the Toad and so much more! Manscaped: Get 20% off + free shipping with the code HOTBOXIN at http://www.manscaped.com Why watch when you can step in the ring? Enter for a chance to win a trip to watch a live taping of Hotboxin’ by signing up for @MoneyLionInc using Mike Tyson’s $RoarTag before June 30, 2022. Enter today. https://mlion.us/$MikeTysonOne entry per person. NoPurNec. 50U.S.+DC18+. Ends 06/30/22 at 11:59 PM ETWe will accept entries between May 5, 2022 and June 30, 2022. After June 30, 2022, no further entries will be permitted. This giveaway is open to any valid users of the MoneyLion mobile application who are residents of the 50 U.S. states and Washington, DC. There is no entry fee and no purchase necessary to enter this giveaway. Only one entry will be accepted per person. Multiple entries from the same person will be disqualified. Any entries that include offensive, discriminatory or inappropriate comments or that otherwise violate the rights of third parties will not be tolerated, and such entries may be disqualified by MoneyLion in its sole discretion. Winner will be chosen at random by algorithm on July 1, 2022 and will be notified by email that day, at which point the winner will be provided information with additional details about the prize, including logistics for the trip. If the winner cannot be contacted or does not respond to the email by July 6, 2022, we reserve the right to withdraw the prize from the winner and pick a replacement winner.The prize is as follows: fully paid round-trip airfare (or other transportation costs if winner is located within 200 miles of destination) for one adult from any U.S. state or DC to Los Angeles, California; fully paid hotel lodgings for two nights sometime in July 2022 (both transportation and hotel lodgings will be booked by MoneyLion); and food expenses up to $100 a person a day from guest arrival and departure. Dates of travel will be provided to the winner. The prize is as stated and no cash or other alternatives will be offered. The prizes are not transferable. MoneyLion reserves the right to substitute any prize with another of equivalent value without giving notice. By entering the giveaway, you agree to the use of your name and image in any publicity material. Subscribe to Hotboxin' with Mike Tyson - http://bit.ly/38GAYR5 Subscribe to Hotboxin’ Clips Channel - http://rb.gy/6pa3ef https://twitter.com/hotboxinpodcast https://www.instagram.com/hotboxinpod... https://www.facebook.com/hotboxinpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Speakers
(3)
Joe Rogan
Mike Tyson
Eben Britton
Transcript
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Mike Tyson
01:33
Hello. This is another episode of hot boxing. I have my co-host here, my man bash and we're here with the incredible
Joe Rogan
. How you doing brother?
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Joe Rogan
01:43
Thanks for having me.
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Mike Tyson
01:44
A man with a pleasure being here with you man.
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Joe Rogan
01:46
It was fun hanging out today. That was a fun podcast.
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Mike Tyson
01:49
Was giving me to be even more fun.
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Joe Rogan
01:50
I'm excited to tell us brother.
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Mike Tyson
01:53
Well, how do you feel about all this magnificent success you've been having?
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Joe Rogan
01:57
It's bizarre. Doesn't seem... doesn't seem normal. You know? It's very strange.
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Mike Tyson
02:02
Every time we turn around, we hear about you getting a deal here, getting a deal here, getting a deal here and then we heard somebody trying to cancel you.
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Joe Rogan
02:10
There's been a lot of that!
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Mike Tyson
02:11
Yeah, that's how we got this stuff relevant so no one can count for you and you could do all the counseling.
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Eben Britton
02:17
How do you feel about that? Like, like the whole cancel culture?
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Joe Rogan
02:21
Well, what it is is a it's a culture of people being able to express themselves. And when people can express themselves, they can change the way other people feel about things. They can get people upset at things. You can say things that you've never been able to say before, you have like so many people have the ability to express themselves now.
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02:40
So it's like you can get someone fired. Like if you decide that you're gonna pile onto someone because you don't like what they said or what they did. You can get a fire. That's a new thing in history because before you would have to have like a letter writing campaign.
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02:53
Like if someone had done something and they were a movie star and you didn't want to go to the movies, you have to like organize, someone had to figure out a way. Like how do we let people know that this guy sucks? Like what do you have to do?
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03:03
And they would have to have made like, you know, they don't have to get like mailing lists and actual send out letters and shipped or they would have to find a way. Now you have to do is like tweet about something or make a Youtube video about something. So in some ways it's like, it's forcing people to get their ship together.
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Eben Britton
03:20
How do you think that affects people in the art and the art realm? Like comedians, right? That must be hard for comedians now. Right? With the cancel culture.
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Joe Rogan
03:30
It definitely is. I mean Ari Schaffer said something very smart about it. He said it made comedy dangerous. Again, he's like, because people can pretend that you're not just talking sh it, they can take your words out of context and try to make it look like you mean something by what you're saying, right? Something in print.
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Mike Tyson
03:51
That's when the counterculture starts to recount itself.
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03:55
That means we can't say something because you don't like it. You particularly don't like it or your organization don't like it.
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Joe Rogan
04:02
There's that too. It's like when you have a corporation and you're in control of like what gets shown, like they can just decide if you if you have something to say about something and they don't agree with it. They can just decide to remove your videos and you know that. So you have to watch what you say and watch what you do.
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Mike Tyson
04:35
Yeah.
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Joe Rogan
04:39
I wonder if there's like an upside to it. I wonder if all this extra sensitivity is going to make people more conscious about what their words mean to other people.
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Mike Tyson
04:49
No, listen, you know, it's not gonna do that.
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Joe Rogan
04:51
I don't think so.
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Mike Tyson
04:52
There's not no upside will always be somebody to say, "F them!" "What about me? I got my feelings. I'm a human being too".
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Joe Rogan
05:01
It does get to a point where like, people want to be, they want to have felt bad about something. Someone said they want to be upset. Like it's recreational outrage for some people. Like people are too woke, it would be just like, what's that stuff about trying so hard.
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Mike Tyson
05:19
It's like, it's complicated, It means good.
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Joe Rogan
05:21
Some people...
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Eben Britton
05:24
Essentially like being enlightened and like wake be awake. Something that's bullshit. That's bigger. That's bigger than yourself.
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Mike Tyson
05:30
And what should we know that what's bigger than us? God after that? What's bigger than enough?
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Joe Rogan
05:35
Well, that's what a lot of people believe. The problem is is that a lot of people don't have God and they they substitute God for other things that mimic the same kind of control religion has and ideologies are one of those things.
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Mike Tyson
05:48
Listen, I'm Muslim. Right?
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05:50
So my daughter said, "God,
Jesus
said we were gods, but we can die like normal kings and princes.
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05:56
No key. I said look it up because I'm always doing, I'm confident, I'm always confrontational with my daughter. I said, look it up, show me they're wearing it. I mean, and she's looking through the bible. She's looking, I said, you can't find it, can you?
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06:07
And she said she's waiting and then she finds that
Jesus
said, we all our God, but we could fall just like any king of prints were with once we're here, we're gonna die, We're living. So we're demigods, pretty much
Jesus
, they were gods. Yes, with flaws.
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06:21
And so since, you know, you have floors, but only floor is dying truly because you know, we could, we could be allowed to be forgiven for everything we did, but we can't be forgiven for dying. We're always, we're all gonna die.
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06:35
And what do you think happens when we die? Do we just do, we were like trees that when the plants die and then there's, sometimes comes, they come back to life, they blossom again. Is that what human beings do you think? What's fascinating about the bible is that stuff we don't know, nobody knows this, but I feel like, you know, that's what we're like plans with dad.
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06:57
This is now it's time for, you know, we die and God creates whatever you do, God's gonna create, you play football, he's gonna create, you lose games, he's gonna create, you win championships, He's gonna create whatever happens. God is creating.
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Joe Rogan
07:11
The wild thing about the bible is that it's thousands of years old and people are still reading it. There's still, they're still reading this thing that was the framework for civilization.
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Mike Tyson
07:23
You know what that tells you? That people are born to worship were born to worship people.
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Joe Rogan
07:29
There's probably something that I think they've, they've isolated that part of like human psychology. That's something that we need.
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Mike Tyson
07:36
Even the hardest man in the world would say, well, you had, you did a magnificent job.
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07:40
That was splendid or whatever is in our nature. don't care how tough, we don't care how successful isn't a nature there. Yes. Worship.
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Joe Rogan
09:21
It's pretty, honestly, it's probably that. And then
Harry Potter
,
Harry Potter
is probably a strong second.
Harry Potter
might have the bible beat.
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09:32
You might want to look that up.
Harry Potter
might have the bible.
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Mike Tyson
09:35
The bible, that's how gangster that lady is. Everybody is. Everybody got that. The bible's is all different stories.
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Joe Rogan
09:43
Well, Mike, that's what we were talking about that. The
Dead Sea Scrolls
and the podcast that we were doing earlier. That's, that's where it gets really wild. That's thousands of years old. They found it in a cave in
Qumran
, they just found these scrolls that has versions of the bible that never seen before.
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Mike Tyson
10:01
Well listen, you know
Constantine
, he said, hey you can put that in the bible. No, you can't put that in the yeah yeah A D. Or whatever the new testament was whenever they brought all the religious people said no, you can't put that in the bible. Yeah, you can put that. No, not that. Well maybe that yeah, that's okay but take that out.
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Joe Rogan
10:17
The thing is like for sure the man had a hand in it. But when you go back and re like, what were they trying to say? Like what was the, when it was written in ancient Hebrew and then they translated into latin, they translated into greek like when it was in ancient Hebrew, like what were they trying to say? What was? What were they writing down?
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Mike Tyson
10:35
What they're saying right now, what preachers are saying right now surrender to God regardless of what surrender to God. That's what they're saying. That's what it's obvious. That's what has ever been since the beginning of time, surrender to God since the beginning of let there be like surrender to God.
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Eben Britton
10:49
And I think it's interesting because I think in majority of religions like you said, you're Muslim, right? There's always one entity right that you want to worship and give, give you know, give your all to and devote yourself to.
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11:04
So I think it's interesting because essentially gods and everything kind of right? That makes sense. It's just in different forms, different religions and different
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Joe Rogan
11:11
Every religion has some kind of God, right? Except for weird ones, you know, there's probably a few made up ones at one time.
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Mike Tyson
11:19
I was explaining to him earlier that at one time superstition with the religion, you know? Superstition was a religion. Yes, I didn't hold my but I used to hold my butt when I go by the catholic church of graveyards or something. So I hold my butt in the catholic, that's something crazy. I don't know what the hell I would do. My mother told me to do this crap.
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Eben Britton
11:41
But let's move on to a different note. So now you're in
Texas
, now you're in
Texas
from California.
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Joe Rogan
11:49
Yeah.
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Eben Britton
11:50
What what what is it like down here? What was the, what was the whole vibe?
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Mike Tyson
11:54
But do you like it?
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Joe Rogan
11:55
Well, I came out here uh in May of 2020 when
LA
. Was locked down and two weeks had become, you know, a couple of months and there was no hint of anything opening up. It was weird and we came here and it was totally different.
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12:09
We came here and everybody was going out, you go to the lake, there's people on boats and my kids jumped in the water and they were playing, they're like, we want to live here and I was like, I will fucking move here right now. And my wife agreed? And we said, let's go, let's try it.
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12:24
And so we just, it was just, it was a different feel. There's so, there's so much fear, it's so nice, people are so nice here, but it was just a different field in
LA
and then I realized part of it is like in
LA
.
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12:37
You're connected to television shows and movies, you're connected to like executives and studio heads in
Hollywood
, it's like a different world because comedians are always trying to get on those shows, You know, they're always trying to get booked in the comedian. I'm not a comedian.
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Mike Tyson
12:54
Yes, you are. No, I thought you were one of your shows. You're mean to everybody know you're hitting people.
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12:59
Let's look at some of the show.
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Joe Rogan
13:01
Please don't look at my shows.
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Mike Tyson
13:03
Joe
Rogan being mean.
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Joe Rogan
13:05
I'm never mean unless someone's mean to me.
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Mike Tyson
13:07
I don't, I'm that's the last thing I want to be always like you like hecklers into and that's the dark side of me, I don't like hecklers, that's the dark side of me. I love the hecklers.
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Eben Britton
13:19
So essentially you just found a new place.
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Joe Rogan
13:21
I just felt it felt like more relaxed here, like people are nicer, something hospitality. It was, it was a different kind of vibe.
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Mike Tyson
13:28
I agree. It's like heaven out here, that was, this is awesome.
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Joe Rogan
13:32
Are you really googling "am I mean?" How dare you, how are you doing? And sticking that in front of my face. We talked about how to not make someone feel comfortable. Got a giant screen: "is
Joe Rogan
mean?" here with the...
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Mike Tyson
13:48
What's your sign
Joe
?
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Joe Rogan
13:49
I'm a Leo. But do you believe in that stuff?
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Mike Tyson
13:51
Really Jewish? People didn't believe in that either. Right. And then they found 1/7 century.
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14:00
What is the synagogue with the the whole look it up? Seventh century synagogue with was the
Horoscope
on the floor?
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14:09
Yeah, It was religion at one time.
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Joe Rogan
14:15
How did they figure that out? How did they figure out?
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Mike Tyson
14:18
7th century? Is it, is it uh what is it?
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Eben Britton
14:22
That's different synagogue?
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Mike Tyson
14:24
Seventh century synagogue.
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Joe Rogan
14:27
I've never had someone explained to me how they figured out astrology.
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14:33
Have you ever heard it explained?
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Mike Tyson
14:37
Listen, people believe it.
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Joe Rogan
14:40
I know a lot of people believe it. I know a lot of people like live their life. Like
Nancy Reagan
used to live her life by it.
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14:46
Did you know that? Yeah,
Nancy Reagan
was like heavy, really should make decisions every day. She would make decisions.
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14:56
Everyone could do and not do with
Ronald Reagan
the president, what he could and couldn't do what should and shouldn't do based on
horoscopes
based on astrology. She had someone to like, I guess that the people that are real good, they find out what time you were born. What part of the country I find out.
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Mike Tyson
15:12
My mentor, my mentor customers.
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15:14
Damn Mystic. Everything he believed was psychologically didn't, never, he never. That's how come he never went to the hospital he didn't believe in doctors.
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Eben Britton
15:22
How long did he live for?
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Mike Tyson
15:23
77, wow, wow. Everyone went to the doctors very rarely. Never did that stuff.
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15:32
Yeah. No, He didn't eat well either. I didn't believe in hospitals. They're, they're different time. Like his parents died like in the 20 or something. So he's seen people come in there with the little stuff stretcher and carry the man. You know, there might be some Irish doctor. They may drop the fucking body hit on the head and laugh because there's some Italian guy. I'm serious.
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Joe Rogan
15:56
Like look at
that horoscope
that's incredible.
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Mike Tyson
16:00
So listen, don't ever doubt me when I tell somebody something. People trying to doubt me, you know, jews don't believe in this ship. So why is it in the synagogue? Listen, you have this this thing's been here longer than our grandparents. So we have to, they have to be mean something.
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16:17
Seventh century God man 700 A. D. Come on man, that's 700 years after Christ they're doing this stuff.
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Joe Rogan
16:24
What do you think is more accurate to think like that
horoscope
or Chinese
horoscopes
that have like, you know, year of the goat, like which one is more?
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Mike Tyson
16:33
They're all combined.
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Joe Rogan
16:35
They combined their one, they're all one, It's all one sort of thing.
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Mike Tyson
16:39
Probably different languages, different cultures. But it's all one.
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Joe Rogan
16:43
I wonder if you read like someone's
horoscope
from both of those things and try to do.
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Mike Tyson
16:48
They do.
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Joe Rogan
16:49
I wonder if they've lined up though.
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Mike Tyson
16:50
You know they've been doing this longer than we've been alive.
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Joe Rogan
16:54
Well the people that are really good at it, they insist that it's like very complicated and that it's like like reading someone's thing. It's it's not like not guesswork. You have to like compile all this data. What time and what part of the world, what time of the year some people would call it black magic.
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Mike Tyson
17:13
You know it's it's it's more black magic than that you would say
Christianity
or
Islamic
or anything wouldn't you say?
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17:20
But it's it makes sense though.
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Joe Rogan
17:21
It does make some kind of sense that if everything is moving and everything has gravity and it moves through the cosmos and it's in different positions.
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Mike Tyson
17:29
I cry over anything. I'm crying over fucking Rose.
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17:33
Rose is crying. You got me I'm crying.
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17:35
Yeah but you know that it's just I'm emotional like that that's why I was successful in the fight because I'd rather kill this motherfucker. I want to do it right. I don't want to escort it. It's just it's a way to do it. You know I got the desire to want to kill somebody have the desire to want to hurt somebody to be a fighter.
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Eben Britton
17:56
Speaking of Fighting,
UFC 273
. What do you think about his
Usman
?
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Mike Tyson
18:01
Who is
Khamzat
?
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18:05
Let's see who these guys who's fighting that? Let's see what he's got...
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Joe Rogan
18:09
Khamzat Chimaev
. Yeah he's from
Chechnya
.
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Eben Britton
18:11
You know who called him...
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18:15
Would you call them?
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Joe Rogan
18:16
Khamzat
.
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Eben Britton
18:17
Khamzat
?
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Joe Rogan
18:18
Khamzat
Chimaev.
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18:20
Colby Covington
calls him cum shot. It's very rude.
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18:24
What other guys do it too?
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Mike Tyson
18:28
He calls him what?
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Joe Rogan
18:28
He calls him cum shot. Very rude, very rude.
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Eben Britton
18:32
Remember he's just fussing with his head obviously remember we had on the show and he said that's you on the show like a thing now it sounds like something like this.
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Joe Rogan
18:43
Did you watch that fight? Mike between him and
Gilbert Burns
.
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Mike Tyson
18:46
Nobody know this guy has some issues that he looks like a nice guy but he's kind of psychopath.
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Joe Rogan
18:52
He's full psychopath. Full psychopath.
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18:56
Oh yeah
Gilbert Burns! Gilbert Burns
was the number 2 contender I think number 3 he beat him. No it was a close fight. It was a good fight. It was a very very good fight. Some people even thought
Gilbert
one Like I have good friends, they texted me afterwards and they thought
Gilbert
one.
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19:15
I thought it was a very good fight though. Very close fight. It was the first time homicide had never been tested.
Gilbert
dropped him.
Gilbert
hit him with a big right hand and dropped him.
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Eben Britton
19:25
How do you think he'd match up with
Adesanya
and
Usman
.
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Joe Rogan
19:29
See the thing is like
Usman
beat Burns in his last outing pretty handily. I mean Burns caught him in the first round with a big shot but
Usman
survived easily and then stopped Burns afterwards and just was the first guy to be able to really dominated like that. So there's like this this level, Well Burns the wild man, he's a wild man.
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19:52
It's one of the reasons why he's so good, but it's also one of the reasons why he took this fight because he's got the balls to fight this big giant welterweight and go to war with him and very little of the fight was on the ground and even on the ground, things like
Gilbert
dropped, jab.
Gilbert
is super dangerous on the ground, and he's a four-time Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion and really started his career at 155 to 55 for a while. But at 170 I mean he beat
Tyron Woodley
pretty handily. He's a beast man, he's really good.
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Mike Tyson
20:25
He's enthusiastic too.
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Joe Rogan
20:25
He's a fucking beast. He's a born fighter and he's also a guy who competes regularly in grappling at an elite level.
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20:37
Yeah, he fought Rafael Lovato, he had a match with the jiu jitsu match with him and beat him and Lovato was like top of the food chain, American Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt, like world champion in Bellator, like an elite elite guy and
Gilbert
beat him in a grappling match, he didn't submit him, but he beat him on points in a grappling match, which is crazy for a guy that's fighting at this level in the
UFC
to also be able to compete at a super high level in grappling simultaneously.
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21:05
I mean that's what a warrior
Gilbert Burns
is, he's a beast.
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21:09
But that dude
Khamzat
is the fucking truth. He's the fucking truth because he got hit with bombs, he got his head spun around backwards, never backed off.
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Mike Tyson
21:20
Oh yeah, he almost kicked him out of the picture of him with the right here.
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Joe Rogan
21:25
He got dropped here and immediately dives in and grabs a hold of him and takes him down. I mean he was on Queer street right there. It was a war, the first fight that he was ever really tested inside the octagon and all the other fights that he's had, he's had four wins, he's been hit twice and that's not bullshit.
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21:43
Four wins, he was hit twice! In this fight, he was hit like 119 times or something crazy. It was an amazing fight.
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Mike Tyson
21:51
Listen, we were just didn't, we just read about the Chechnyans reality. They are tough mentality too. Yeah and you know what they do for entertainment, They wrestle bears and they know, listen, I've been there, I've traveled, I stayed there, I've been there.
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22:08
The president, I know the president ran them and they watched like
Evel Knievel
stunts and tricks and a guy with a motorcycle, it's the whole time you sit there and watch it.
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Joe Rogan
22:18
They have a lot of
MMA
fighters that come out of there, they know I'm just gonna say they get behind a lot of
MMA
fighters.
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22:25
It's very like combat sports driven country. So when a guy like comstock comes out of there, you also got to think like a horrible place to live, you know it's dangerous.
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Mike Tyson
22:37
Life in middle world war life is just worth a word. Yeah, not worth anything.
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Joe Rogan
22:44
He's a war-torn part of the world and the people that survived guys like him and then he goes over to Sweden becomes an elite wrestler. The people that he trains with, he's like their brothers who would never fight them.
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22:55
He he's like very tightly knit with the people he trains with because he just started training with this English guy,
Darren Till
it's kind of a hilarious duo.
Darren
tells his muay Thai fighter from
England
, he fights in the
UFC
and he started training with
Khamzat
in Sweden, they become like best friends and now they call each other brother and like everybody's his brother. So he's got like this tight knit team until he goes to war and then when he goes to he just wants to kill everybody.
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Mike Tyson
23:17
And no one knows how to do it, but nobody knows how much the warrior spirit is in the English people, they're nothing but warriors, it's nothing but wood, that's all they know how to do is fight.
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23:30
You go to
England
, everybody in
England
out of the fight, they may know how to win, but everyone knows how to fight.
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Eben Britton
23:34
I didn't know that, I didn't know that at all.
Joe
, I was curious to know you starting off commentating for
UFC
, Did you ever think it's going to be as big as it was?
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Joe Rogan
23:46
No, no, not at all, no! I always thought it would be some weird fringe thing that I like, that. I like, I like some fringe things. Like, I like watching professional pool, I play pool, so nobody watches that, right? I watch it, like, so I thought it was like that, one of those French things.
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Mike Tyson
24:02
Yes, back in the day, and they had their, what was this guy named? Don? He was like the prototype. He was like, the protege of
Minnesota
,
Willie Mosconi
, I forgot his name was, he was good to Don something. Yeah, I used to watch those guys.
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Joe Rogan
24:15
Not sure, what that would be. But yeah...
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Mike Tyson
24:17
Minnesota Fat VS
Willie Mosconi
before. Did you really?
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Joe Rogan
24:20
Wow.
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Eben Britton
24:21
Oh wow.
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Joe Rogan
24:22
Yeah, Pool used to be a big thing now, nobody really, you got to watch it on YouTube. It's where people watch it.
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Mike Tyson
24:27
Really became a big thing because of
Minnesota Fats
, because he was the
Muhammad Ali
, a pool nigga. He talked so much shit.
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Joe Rogan
24:35
Do you know he stole his name from the movie,
The Hustler
?
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Mike Tyson
24:38
Get out of here! New York Fats at 1st.
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Joe Rogan
24:41
Yeah, yeah, no, no, that's it, yeah, he was New York Fats.
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Mike Tyson
24:46
Minnesota, Minnesota
, that slick pimp stuff.
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Joe Rogan
24:49
Because
Minnesota Fats
was the guy was like a hustler, he was like a one pocket player and a hustler.
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24:54
He just never beat
Willie Moscone
in a game.
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24:58
I played a trick shot, he could beat him in a game of one pocket.
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Mike Tyson
25:01
Maybe they would play, I would have one corner pocket with his master. But yeah, this is the difference could always beat him. But watching him play, it's exciting. And watching the play, he would talk all kinds of ships talking, talking, talking and this is gonna come up your mother's skirt right now.
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Joe Rogan
25:20
Yeah, he was a gambler. That was the big thing because he was a gambler.
Mosconi
was a big time tournament player.
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Mike Tyson
25:27
That could beat him in straight pool could beat him for money.
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Joe Rogan
25:30
Yeah,
Mosconi
was the guy that would win like world championships in
straight pool
, nice tie...
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Mike Tyson
25:37
Classy guy.
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Joe Rogan
25:38
Minnesota Fats
used in New York Fats last month. He was just a, you know, a ship talker who played real good pool.
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Mike Tyson
25:46
He was...
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Joe Rogan
25:47
He had a great personality, he was a big personality, you know.
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Eben Britton
25:49
Fun fact: my dad bought me a pool table when I was like, maybe 12, 13. I mean, he used to run it all the time. Yeah, I think that's pretty cool. That's used to be your thing.
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Mike Tyson
26:01
You ever hear the singer
Etta James
?
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Joe Rogan
26:03
Etta James
, Yeah, I've heard the name, she said
Minnesota
fest with her father.
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26:07
Oh wow. Probably, he probably got around, that was back in the day, You get laid if you played a good pool. That's hilarious. You know what's your strategy? Like how you gonna get laid?
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26:17
I'm gonna learn how to play pool real good.
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Mike Tyson
26:19
He was more than a pool player. He was a personality.
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Joe Rogan
26:23
Yes. No he was an entertainer. He definitely made the sport bigger. But a big thing that made the sport bigger was that movie
The Hustler
.
The Hustler
was a huge movie. And when that movie came out and what was the name
Jackie Gleason
and
Paul Newman
and then they did another one with
Tom Cruise
The Color Of Money
.
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Mike Tyson
26:40
But
Jackie Gleason
is so cool.
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Joe Rogan
26:43
Oh he was the best. He was like the first guy to ever play pool on tv that actually knew how to play pool or in the movies? I should say.
Jackie Gleason
could play some fucking pool. You could tell like when he's playing like he's the fluidity of his stroke. When he's going through the ball.
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Mike Tyson
26:56
Like that guy can play document amazing documentary successful has always been successful.
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Joe Rogan
27:03
He was an interesting guy. All he like to do is get drunk and play golf and get drunk and play pool.
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Mike Tyson
27:08
He was like he was like he was like a modern day What was the guy named? W. C. Fields. Yeah.
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Joe Rogan
27:15
Do you know the story about the house that he had? That he had built to look like a Ufo?
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Eben Britton
27:20
Who?
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Joe Rogan
27:20
Jackie Gleason
.
Jackie Gleason
was friends with
Nixon
and and
Jackie Gleason
and
Nixon
legend has it? They were drinking one night and
Nixon
says you want to see a Ufo and he takes
Jackie Gleason
to some hangar where they have a crashed Ufo and he shows it to him. And so
Jackie Gleason
gets a fucking house built in the shape of a Ufo.
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27:44
It's in new york state and it was for sale at one point in time. I can't believe I didn't know it was for sale until somebody bought it.
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Eben Britton
27:52
So you believe in you believe in UFOs, you believe that the government's hiding stuff from us?
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Joe Rogan
27:55
I don't disbelieve, I don't believe I don't disbelieve but I don't believe, I think it's possible.
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Mike Tyson
28:01
Can I give you my opinion?
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Joe Rogan
28:02
Yes, please.
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Mike Tyson
28:03
You know what I thought? pick it up.
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Joe Rogan
28:06
Look at that house though! That's his fucking house. He had his house made like the inside of a flying saucer. Like it was a big circular house in the woods in
New York State
. It looks dope. I mean it's a wild looking house and that was
Jackie Gleason
.
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28:18
I mean he could any fucking house he wanted, he could get and he decided to make this and he said it was because that's what he saw when he went to visit
Nixon
or so the legend has it.
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Eben Britton
28:30
That's trippy as ship the houses.
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Mike Tyson
28:32
Yeah, I just don't believe that God, just I don't believe the universe just chose us to be the only one. Look at these guys, they're so special. They're going to be the only one in existence.
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28:43
Nobody in trillions of miles away gonna be existing. But them trillions of miles. I mean from the end of time there's no way it's going to ever exist for us. We're gonna handle all this space by ourselves.
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28:54
Do you believe that? No, I don't believe That 10 million miles of space. There's nobody a billion miles of space. There's nobody but us.
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Joe Rogan
29:03
I think there's definitely some ship visiting us over the course of human history. The question is like, how often and how does it do it?
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Mike Tyson
29:10
But listen, it doesn't have to be physically right.
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Joe Rogan
29:13
They may be able to like you into our area.
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Mike Tyson
29:17
What's my wife talking about this? What's my wife talks about glitz Simon ultra sometimes gets some time where you gotta watch out. Everything could be bad if what could happen would happen.
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29:29
What's the what's the name?
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29:30
I don't know, but it's something ultrasound, Something happened.
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Eben Britton
29:34
Or or maybe they are here, they just kind of like take form of of humans that could be listen, we can't see the dust that's killing us.
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Mike Tyson
29:43
It's so microscopic. They might be in front of us and microscopic, right? We can't see the dust. That's killing us. It's microscopic, right?
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Joe Rogan
29:52
Why? Why do they have to Maybe they're so advanced. They don't have to be here to be here. Maybe they could view into here, maybe they could peer into our
world
.
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30:04
I used to think that maybe ideas were aliens because ideas make you create them. Like everything that's ever been made? A light switch, a computer, a gun. Everything that's ever been made came out of an idea. So if something wants to get made, how does it get made? Well, it has to get you excited about making it.
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30:21
So a thing, an idea comes into your head and everybody's ideas compound upon other ideas and they make things better and better and better. But how is that happening? Like those things are forcing themselves into existence. It's almost like a live thing that gets in your head and then you have to go make something and next thing you know, you've made an engine and somebody attaches it to a fucking plane.
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Mike Tyson
30:41
I mean did you see the guy in the first. The first, what's that? That suit that flies?
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Joe Rogan
30:53
In the jetpacks? Jetpacks.
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Mike Tyson
30:54
The first...
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Joe Rogan
30:56
The Iron Man suit?
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Mike Tyson
30:57
No, when you're flying oh wingsuit, wingsuit In Paris put in Paris. The
Eiffel Tower
. You saw that one?
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31:06
I've seen a bunch of these where they miss.
Eiffel Tower Jump
1902.
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Joe Rogan
31:11
No, I'm not kidding. There's one where this guy, he slams into a bridge. A metal bridge and the bridge clangs. No, I saw this guy. Yeah, I saw this guy. Yeah, this is the first guy, he falls right to his death.
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Mike Tyson
31:26
Look at this guy, he's like, how do you how do you take a practice jump? How do you practice?
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Joe Rogan
31:31
You don't practice.
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Eben Britton
31:32
You don't practice.
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Joe Rogan
31:32
You gotta believe in yourself johnny practice this dude. He falls like a rock. He falls like a rock. This poor bastard. This ship didn't work at all.
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Mike Tyson
31:42
Oh shit.
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Joe Rogan
31:44
Oh he asked to have thought that because look how high he was.
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Eben Britton
31:47
Serious confidence and belief in yourself.
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Joe Rogan
31:50
That it's a stupid confidence. It's like how is he thinking he's gonna land?
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31:56
How is he thinking he's gonna land? Do you know how fast you're going to be going down?
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Mike Tyson
32:00
How do you practice?
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Joe Rogan
32:02
You do it this way this is how you do it.
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32:05
This fucking guy's out of his mind. If I was his friend of like Henry you don't know.
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32:10
Oh
Jesus
!
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Mike Tyson
32:12
Ohohoho!
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Joe Rogan
32:13
Oh! I mean that didn't slow it down at all!
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Mike Tyson
32:22
They picked him up.
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Joe Rogan
32:23
Oh my God there's a hole in the ground where it used to be.
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32:26
He made a hole in the ground. Fuck that.
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Eben Britton
32:29
Yeah it's different.
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Joe Rogan
32:30
So let's my friend Andy does that he does those flying squirrel suit. He had the world record Andy Stumpf. He held the world record for like he jumped out of a fucking airplane with one of those flying wingsuits. Yeah I think he's got a parachute at the end. I think that's what happens at the very end. You pull a parachute.
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Mike Tyson
32:50
Does anybody in the world Did around four times already?
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Eben Britton
32:54
Is it? What I know what you're talking about. Like it's like a sport.
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Mike Tyson
32:57
Yeah, he but he's the fastest jobe. He's the fastest in the world.
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Eben Britton
33:01
They use like nothing but their hands. Is that that bare knuckle stuff? Yeah, I know that. It's trippy.
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Mike Tyson
33:06
Look at this fuckingo did you see the story with this woman? She was a suit flyer and her husband died. And then she only dated people in the suit that fly suits. She had three boyfriends that died from the suit. She only dated a guy that flies in the suit.
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Joe Rogan
33:22
Yeah, if I was those dudes, I checked those suits. Super careful.
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Mike Tyson
33:26
No.
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Joe Rogan
33:26
Listen, you don't want to cast any aspersions, anybody's way. You gotta check out that they listen.
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Mike Tyson
33:33
When they hit a rock, you know, they hit the mountain. They become like a piece of my friend.
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Joe Rogan
33:39
Andy he told me he's pulled multiple friends off the mountain.
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Mike Tyson
33:42
They get embedded.
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Joe Rogan
33:43
He has multiple friends that have died doing this. And he he he retired. He stopped doing it a while ago, but he held the
world
record at one point. It's the crazy if he retired.
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Mike Tyson
33:54
He's a quitter.
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33:55