Monday, May 23, 2022 • 17min

Nims Purja: The Nepalese mountaineer who breaks boundaries for a living

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Nepal-born Nirmal ‘Nims’ Purja is the first Gurkha to serve in the United Kingdom Special Forces. After 10 years of service he decided to give everything up to climb all the world’s 14 peaks over 8,000m in seven months – the last person who achieved the feat took seven years. Hear his story, in his own words, about his humble beginnings and his big dreams. This long read from RedBull.com is written and read by Josh Sampiero. Make sure you hit follow to be the first to hear the latest episodes. Discover more about Beyond the Ordinary at redbull.com/beyondtheordinary.
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Nirmal Purja
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Josh Sampiero
00:05
The
Nims Purja
paradox. A conversation about humble beginnings, dreaming big and always believing that anything's possible with
Nims Purja
, the Nepalese
mountaineer
who breaks boundaries for a living.
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00:21
This long read is taken from
RedBull.com
and is written and read by Josh Sampiero. To make sure you don't miss the next episode, subscribe to Red Bull's Beyond the Ordinary podcast wherever you get your podcasts from.
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Nirmal Purja
00:39
I'm
Nimsdai
, born in
Nepal
. I joined the
Gurkhas
when I was very young. I was the first-ever
Gurkha
to pass the selection for
United Kingdom Special Forces
selection. I served with UKSF for 10 years and in 2019, you know, I decided to give everything away and, you know, sort of climbing all these big 8,000m peaks within seven months.
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01:07
So, yeah well, that's the sort of brief I can give I guess. I'm there to break boundaries: that is my job, in human performance and endeavour. That is my job.
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Josh Sampiero
01:23
This is
Nirmal Purja
, usually known as
Nims
, and some of the things he’s done really defy belief. Like climbing two of the world’s tallest peaks – back-to-back, with no sleep. Or tackling
Everest
while on "vacation" from his former job in the
Special Forces
. In his own words, he’s here to break boundaries, and those boundaries are really high up.
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01:51
The mission he began in 2019 was grandiose in every respect: climb all 14 of the world’s 8,000m mountains, a feat first achieved by the legendary
Reinhold Messner
in 1986. The last climber to do it took more than seven years.
Nims
wanted to do it in six months. To do that, he’d need to skip the weeks-long period of acclimatisation and recovery that normally lets people climb only one or two such mountains a year.
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02:24
The name he gave to this ambitious undertaking raised eyebrows from the start. What he called "Project Possible" seemed anything but. Yet he achieved his goal of climbing all those mountains in just 189 days. You can watch his documentary "
14 Peaks: Nothing Is Impossible
" on
Netflix
, out now.
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02:48
To get a better understanding of the kind of person who even attempts such a thing – keep listening.
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Nirmal Purja
02:55
Okay, so for those people who don't know, I climb in the big mountains of about 1000 m peak. So the peaks of over 1000m are called the death zone peaks because over there the oxygen is so less and is so thin that human body is literally dying and that's my playground, and that's where I operate, so this is what I do.
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03:20
It's about being yourself, being honest, be happy. You know, we have so much stress on this kind of, you know, extremely risks taking sports that when you come down with us, like, we just want to have fun.
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Josh Sampiero
03:36
"Fun" probably isn’t the first word you would associate with what
Nims
does for a living. "Extremely difficult and dangerous" is more what comes to mind. However, if you were to spend any time with him, one thing would become immediately clear: this guy is happy with where he’s at – but he’s even happier when he’s in the middle of a multiple-day mountain-climbing sufferfest.
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04:02
The young
Nims
was never afraid of a rumble in the schoolyard.
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Nirmal Purja
04:05
I didn't take shit from anybody and even at a young age, I was fighting, I was scrapping.
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Josh Sampiero
04:11
The presence of two older brothers, both of whom made it to the elite military force known as the
Gurkhas
, may have helped that tendency – but there was not much of a question. The fight was in him from the start, even if climbing mountains wasn’t.
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04:27
When someone achieves their life’s dreams at a young age – and for
Nims
, it was to honour his family by serving in the military – you shouldn’t be surprised when that person suddenly needs a new dream and a new goal. Leave the obvious mountain climbing metaphor by the wayside here – it’s important to understand what kind of soldier
Nims
was, and actually, still is.
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04:51
Competition for
Special Forces
is fierce and selective – and most of the time, the tryouts and subsequent training takes care of the selection on its own. Over 90 percent of applicants don’t make the cut. The
Special Boat Service
, where
Nims
served, is for the elite. There’s no question this is one of the hardest jobs in the world.
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Nirmal Purja
05:14
I broke that barrier of being the first
Gurkha
to be in the
Special Forces
. You know, it's crazy because it's like the real James Bond, you know. One minute you're flying out of the plane, second you're diving, third, you are in the war. It's always action. So, that was my dream job, but I left my one dream job for another dream job to change the world in a different way.
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Josh Sampiero
05:37
It’s hard to say where and when the seed to become a mountain climber got planted in his mind. But whatever the inspiration was, when
Nims
got his first taste of the high alpine, he was addicted – and it was clear that the world’s tallest mountains were in his future.
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05:55
On his first venture into the high alpine on
Dhaulagiri
, he wanted to remain undercover. He and his climbing partner kept a low profile, ditching climbing gear for casual clothes like shorts and sandals. It got to the point where people were asking who they were just because they looked more than a little clueless.
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06:16
For his first
Everest
summit, some years later, the modus operandi hadn’t changed. With only a couple weeks of military leave, he went to the bank and fibbed about needing a car loan so he could pay the fees to climb. He arrived at base camp late in the season, with little time to acclimatise, and told everyone there he was a medic back in London.
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06:39
After his summit, he didn’t post pictures or share the news – in fact, he kept it well under wraps. Never mind the fact that he was now the only currently serving
Gurkha
to summit
Everest
– he’d done it without official approval. Not that following the rules has ever really slowed him down.
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06:59
Word got around about what he’d done, and the reaction was more impressed than annoyed. But that was only going to be the case as long as he kept having success. So in case you’re thinking it all sounds too good to be true, it’s worth sharing a story that
Nims
himself is in no way reluctant about telling – when he overestimated himself on that first climb up
Everest
.
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07:22
Upon arriving at Everest’s Camp II,
Nims
decided to push himself 150m higher just to test his reaction to the altitude. The reaction was not good, and he found himself with High Altitude Pulmonary Edema.
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07:38
It’s worth talking about what can go wrong at high altitude. Forget falling off a rock or sliding down ice or snow (although that can happen too), simply being there is dangerous. Humans like oxygen in their air, and the higher you go, the less there is of it. At Base Camp, you’re breathing 50 percent of the oxygen than you are at sea level. At the summit, your body (and brain) is getting 33 percent of the oxygen that you’re used to.
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08:11
For mountaineers, the thing about bringing people to 8,000m is that you’ve got to have immense self-belief to attempt something like this, yet be incredibly humble to survive. Despite the simplistic name, decisions made at that altitude are rarely straightforward. There’s no "safe" or "unsafe", merely'less risk "and" degrees of significantly more risk ".
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08:37
As a
mountaineer
,
Nims
has to occupy both ends of the mental spectrum: full trust and belief in himself and his decision-making abilities, and the capacity to know when the mountain is, in his own words "simply bigger than you are".
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08:54
When he got that little kick in the teeth by ascending too quickly on his first attempt, it wasn’t really a setback, it was more... part of the process.
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Nirmal Purja
09:04
I think the biggest thing is about discovering your body, your limitations, and what you can do and what you can't do, right? That's when you have the baseline and you operate from there.
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09:17
For me, as I said, I didn't climb mountains since I was a kid, I was only into this field for like, you know, four or five years at that point and I'm still discovering more stuff about my body. That's what I was investing in.
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Josh Sampiero
09:29
Until recently, the high-altitude climbing world had never been about speed. Expeditions took months, as climbers acclimatised their bodies to the altitude. Recently, things have gotten faster – much faster.
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09:44
Nims
wasn’t the first person to pioneer this arena – other alpinists have started pushing acclimatisation periods by sleeping in hyperbaric chambers at home to simulate low oxygen environments, while others are simply training harder and more often. Although
Nims
isn’t doing either of these things, he still exhibits an incredible ability to both deal with and recover from high altitude.
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10:08
Sometimes people assume that to achieve the things this
mountaineer
has, you need to be fearless. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Nims
would be the first to tell you that a healthy fear is what keeps him alive, in the knowledge that you cannot overcome every situation that may arise at 8,000m.
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10:27
For
Nims
to do what he does, he has to understand fear. But this is where it gets really curious. When asked the simple question, "Can you tell us what’s next?"
Nims
declines – and not because of secrecy.
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Nirmal Purja
10:43
I cannot, because I'm scared of my goal – in a way that if I say it, I have to do it. So, it's going to be something that, again, like what I did, when I said, I'm gonna climb fourteen 8,000m peaks in seven months, people were laughing to me, people were like, "How is this possible?"
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11:03
Because the general public couldn't even imagine that it's possible, but it seems possible to me, so I'm in the process of thinking of a different project right now in my brain, where, again, people are gonna be like, "Wow, is it possible?", you know. But I'm not saying that to anybody because even I'm scared of my dreams.
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Josh Sampiero
11:26
The lens through which we view professional adventurers has evolved much in the Instagram era. It’s become less about conquering nature than about communing with it; less about the achievement than the experience. It’s more en vogue to drop a paragraphs-long Instagram post about how your experience changed you, than it is to say simply, "We did it!".
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11:50
Nims
will not only tell you what they did, he wants to downplay the achievement – and tell you about the party afterwards at Namche Bazaar.
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Nirmal Purja
11:58
When you say you are a
Gurkha
, people think
Everest
is in your back garden; you're the very fittest guy, you got this amazing brand. If you can't climb
Everest
, people are gonna, like, spit in your face. For that reputation, I step up, I knew what I could do, went, fixed the lines with my team. We opened the route for not only my team, but for everybody on that mountain that season.
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12:20
After that, I got back down in
Kathmandu
with my team. We had a massive celebration with the military, you know how it's like. Then I went back again, then I climbed
Everest
, then I climbed
Lhotse
and I climbed
Makalu
, so that's world's first, fourth, and fifth highest mountain in five days with partying for two nights at Namche Bazaar.
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12:41
That's when I realised, "Oh, I think I can do more here." That's when I started thinking bigger because you can only imagine things once you break that threshold, right, and then you can imagine other stuff.
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Josh Sampiero
12:55
"That’s when I started thinking bigger" – it’s with this line that you understand the most important thing about
Nims
: he’s a dreamer. The difference is, he’s incredibly good at making his dreams a reality. It’s a relaxed attitude, but
Nims
can’t hide his pride.
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13:12
In fact, he's not shy about his accomplishments at all. If you didn’t know how hard he worked to climb the world’s 14 different 8,000m mountains, you would likely know shortly after meeting him. Other accomplished people are said to simply radiate competency or talent, and
Nims
does that too, but he’ll also flat out tell you that he’s done some remarkable stuff – despite nobody believing in him.
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13:37
Having seen what he’s now accomplished, it’s tough to reconcile the fact that at one point, people simply looked at what he wanted to do and said "no way".
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Nirmal Purja
13:46
I have to be sure about it, you know, because giving perfect example on my quest to climb 14 peaks, nobody believed in me. I had no funding. I was my own supporter. I was at least my own believer. That's what it pushed me. That's what it made me difference.
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Josh Sampiero
14:07
As suggested earlier, "Project Possible" was a misnomer from the start. Of course it was possible, in the way that it’s possible for your neighbour to go the moon or to win the lottery twice. It was just very, very unlikely – and not just because of the climbing, but because of the logistics, and naturally the associated costs.
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14:28
Factor in the permits, people having to eat and sleep in the most remote places on the planet, where dinner is routinely delivered by helicopter – and sums add up real quick. In fact, he started with just 15 percent of the budget he figured he’d need to summit every 8,000er – so he went to the bank and remortgaged his house.
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14:51
By any name or any definition, the scope of the achievement is immense: reducing the record from 2,900 days to 189. In the span of a few months, he etched his name permanently into the history books – and changed the world of mountaineering. He found a thing everybody said couldn’t be done, and did it.
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15:16
And when you look back at his past and see every step he took to get there, it all makes sense, and you see the kind of journey he’s been on to be able to put all thoughts of pride behind and learn true self-awareness.
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Nirmal Purja
15:30
The biggest thing, what I said to you earlier, what the mountain teaches is humbleness. You're not bigger than a mountain at the end of the day, you know. The mountains stand tall, doesn't matter how the weather is, how the storm is, whatever it is. It's so neutral, right? We are human, we have emotions, we have everything. We have a lot to learn from the mountains.
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15:54
So for me, when there is a critical moment, whether should I go to the summit or should I not, I always be honest to myself. Can I really do this? Or is it just because of my ego? Or is it just because I want to prove to the world or is it just because I want to show it or is it just because I hope I can do it?
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16:18
The answer is, if you're hoping and if there's all that stuff, and if you're not honest to yourself, you pull out. That's the only reason you stay alive, being honest to yourself.
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Josh Sampiero
16:30
The paradox is this – humans aren’t humble when they begin to think of climbing mountains. We don’t ascend thousands of metres to feel small – we only feel small when we get there.
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16:44
You don’t assume when meeting
Nims
that he’s discovered the purpose of life – but what’s immediately clear is that he’s discovered the purpose of his life: he wants to show us what humans can do.
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16:59
This long read is taken from
RedBull.com
and is written and read by Josh Sampiero.
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